Pilots flying into Oregon must register with the state!?

Maybe I'm misreading this, but it looks to me like Oregon requires any
general aviation pilot who flies into or through Oregon must then
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days. Unless
they have some other meaning for "operating"? Likewise, in all the
material I've ever read on acquiring a pilot certificate, this is the
first time I've read that there are additional state requirements! How
many states have laws like this? Here's the text of the law and links to
the entire context for anyone who can help me understand what this really
means:

"837.020 Registration of pilots; renewal. (1) In the interest of public
safety and the safety of those people traveling by air or receiving
aviation instruction, every pilot operating within this state shall
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days of
issuance of any appropriate effective federal certificate, permit, rating
or license relating to competency as a pilot except that student pilots
shall register prior to their first solo flight. A nonresident pilot of a
scheduled or nonscheduled airline, certificated by the appropriate
federal agency, is not required to register under the provisions of this
section unless the nonresident pilot engages in the piloting of aircraft
other than such certificated operation. Nonresidents operating within
this state, other than in a commercial operation, shall register with the
department within 60 days of the date of arrival within the state. Pilots
operating commercially shall register prior to any commercial operation.

(2) Every registered pilot shall renew the first registration on
the anniversary of the pilot’s birthdate. After the first renewal, each
pilot shall renew registration on the anniversary of the pilot’s
birthdate in the first year of each two-year period thereafter in which
the pilot is active as a pilot.

(3) Every registered pilot shall notify the department in writing
within 30 days of a change of address or name. The notification shall
contain the old and new residence address or name and the pilot
registration number. [Formerly 493.040; 1991 c.186 §1]

837.025 Requirements for pilot registration; fees; certificates.
(1) Possession of the appropriate effective federal certificate, permit,
rating or license relating to competency of the pilot and payment of a
fee of $8 for initial registration and $16 for each renewal of
registration shall be the requisite for registration of the pilot under
ORS 837.020. A filing of a written statement containing the information
reasonably required by the Oregon Department of Aviation is sufficient to
effect a registration. No originals or copies of federal certificates,
permits, ratings or licenses shall be required of the applicant.
Duplicate certificates of pilot registration may be obtained upon proof
of loss or destruction of the original by application therefor to the
department and the payment of $5 for each additional certificate.

(2) The department may issue certificates of registration and may
prescribe requirements for possession and exhibition of such
certificates.

(3) Information submitted in any application for registration is a
public record and is open to public inspection during normal office
hours. [Formerly 493.050; 1991 c.206 §1; 1997 c.585 §3]"

http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/837.html
http://www.oregon.gov/Aviation/registration.shtml

Recently, Jim Logajan posted:

Maybe I'm misreading this, but it looks to me like Oregon requires any
general aviation pilot who flies into or through Oregon must then
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days. Unless
they have some other meaning for "operating"?

As I read it, if you are flying to Washington from California, and make a
fuel stop in Oregon, you then have to register within the 60 day period.
However, it seems to me that enforcement would be practically impossible
in such a case. It would be interesting to see if this rule could really
hold up in court should they try to enforce it.

Neil

Neil Gould wrote:
As I read it, if you are flying to Washington from California, and make a
fuel stop in Oregon, you then have to register within the 60 day period.
However, it seems to me that enforcement would be practically impossible
in such a case. It would be interesting to see if this rule could really
hold up in court should they try to enforce it.



Since I live on the East coast, I think I'd feel fairly safe at blowing them
off, even if I ever did fly in their state. What are they going to do? Send
federal marshals?



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Since I live on the East coast, I think I'd feel fairly safe at blowing them
off, even if I ever did fly in their state. What are they going to do? Send
federal marshals?

Well, if you blow them off, you can be identified as a Threat To
National Security. So, yes, they could send in the marshals, and do
much worse, before it's overturned.

Jose
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On Jun 10, 8:42 pm, Jose wrote:
Since I live on the East coast, I think I'd feel fairly safe at blowing them
off, even if I ever did fly in their state. What are they going to do? Send
federal marshals?

Well, if you blow them off, you can be identified as a Threat To
National Security. So, yes, they could send in the marshals, and do
much worse, before it's overturned.

Yea, at some point the scribe will bring a copy of the constitution to
Oregon and they'll read the interstate commerce clause.

-Robert

Jose wrote:
Since I live on the East coast, I think I'd feel fairly safe at
blowing them off, even if I ever did fly in their state. What are
they going to do? Send federal marshals?

Well, if you blow them off, you can be identified as a Threat To
National Security. So, yes, they could send in the marshals, and do
much worse, before it's overturned.

Jose

Well since this is a state law I doubt federal marshals would have any
interest at all.

On Jun 11, 6:21 am, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net
wrote:
Jose wrote:
Since I live on the East coast, I think I'd feel fairly safe at
blowing them off, even if I ever did fly in their state. What are
they going to do? Send federal marshals?

Well, if you blow them off, you can be identified as a Threat To
National Security. So, yes, they could send in the marshals, and do
much worse, before it's overturned.

Jose

Well since this is a state law I doubt federal marshals would have any
interest at all.

If that were true medical pot smoking would be legal in California.
People go to jail for this in California because its a federal law
even though the state as a registration system for users who have Dr
approval. When my mom was dieing the Dr even suggested she try it (she
didn't). Its legal according to the state but if the feds find out
she'd go to jail.

-Robert

Well since this is a state law I doubt federal marshals would have any
interest at all.

The marshals have an interest in Threats To National Security.

Jose
--
There are two kinds of people in the world. Those that just want to
know what button to push, and those that want to know what happens when
they push the button.
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This falls right on top of the new Tax mandate from the lovely State of
Maine.
Aircraft flying through or stopping at any airport in Maine will be a sent a
Tax Bill for 5% of their value (sales tax?).
The Tax department has been charged with correlating Flight Plans with
aircraft N-numbers and sending the owner a bill.
The state is trying to collect taxes from Maine Residents who
register/store/base their aircraft in another state to avoid being taxed.

I do hope they are doing the same to all those RVs and Campers who visit
Maine every summer.
Should drive the tourist level down and keep the limited highways clear for
residents.

BT

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
Maybe I'm misreading this, but it looks to me like Oregon requires any
general aviation pilot who flies into or through Oregon must then
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days. Unless
they have some other meaning for "operating"? Likewise, in all the
material I've ever read on acquiring a pilot certificate, this is the
first time I've read that there are additional state requirements! How
many states have laws like this? Here's the text of the law and links to
the entire context for anyone who can help me understand what this really
means:

"837.020 Registration of pilots; renewal. (1) In the interest of public
safety and the safety of those people traveling by air or receiving
aviation instruction, every pilot operating within this state shall
register with the Oregon Department of Aviation within 60 days of
issuance of any appropriate effective federal certificate, permit, rating
or license relating to competency as a pilot except that student pilots
shall register prior to their first solo flight. A nonresident pilot of a
scheduled or nonscheduled airline, certificated by the appropriate
federal agency, is not required to register under the provisions of this
section unless the nonresident pilot engages in the piloting of aircraft
other than such certificated operation. Nonresidents operating within
this state, other than in a commercial operation, shall register with the
department within 60 days of the date of arrival within the state. Pilots
operating commercially shall register prior to any commercial operation.

(2) Every registered pilot shall renew the first registration on
the anniversary of the pilot's birthdate. After the first renewal, each
pilot shall renew registration on the anniversary of the pilot's
birthdate in the first year of each two-year period thereafter in which
the pilot is active as a pilot.

(3) Every registered pilot shall notify the department in writing
within 30 days of a change of address or name. The notification shall
contain the old and new residence address or name and the pilot
registration number. [Formerly 493.040; 1991 c.186 §1]

837.025 Requirements for pilot registration; fees; certificates.
(1) Possession of the appropriate effective federal certificate, permit,
rating or license relating to competency of the pilot and payment of a
fee of $8 for initial registration and $16 for each renewal of
registration shall be the requisite for registration of the pilot under
ORS 837.020. A filing of a written statement containing the information
reasonably required by the Oregon Department of Aviation is sufficient to
effect a registration. No originals or copies of federal certificates,
permits, ratings or licenses shall be required of the applicant.
Duplicate certificates of pilot registration may be obtained upon proof
of loss or destruction of the original by application therefor to the
department and the payment of $5 for each additional certificate.

(2) The department may issue certificates of registration and may
prescribe requirements for possession and exhibition of such
certificates.

(3) Information submitted in any application for registration is a
public record and is open to public inspection during normal office
hours. [Formerly 493.050; 1991 c.206 §1; 1997 c.585 §3]"

http://landru.leg.state.or.us/ors/837.html
http://www.oregon.gov/Aviation/registration.shtml

On Jun 10, 7:16 pm, "BT" wrote:
This falls right on top of the new Tax mandate from the lovely State of
Maine.
Aircraft flying through or stopping at any airport in Maine will be a sent a
Tax Bill for 5% of their value (sales tax?).
The Tax department has been charged with correlating Flight Plans with
aircraft N-numbers and sending the owner a bill.
The state is trying to collect taxes from Maine Residents who
register/store/base their aircraft in another state to avoid being taxed.

I do hope they are doing the same to all those RVs and Campers who visit
Maine every summer.
Should drive the tourist level down and keep the limited highways clear for
residents.

The solution to the Maine problem appears to be to fly VFR only
through there. They are using IFR flight plans to find you.