Moonless Night Claims Two Senior CAP Officers

Maybe a different story.

The IC threatened to punish the squadron. And was successful by having the
squadron assigned plane removed for a matter of months. The squadron had to
write an apology and agree to fly night search missions in the mountains
with some concessions like: real search (not just an ELT, two pilots
onboard, both IFR and night current, etc). So much for PIC authority.

There is the CAP on paper, then there is the real CAP. They are vastly
different in my experience.




"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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On Nov 13, 2:21 pm, "Watson" wrote:
I refused a visual mountain search at night for a found out later to be a
false ELT. I was a Mountain Mission Pilot withCAPfor some 20 odd years.
I and my squadron were punished for the refusal. "I order you to fly
this
search!" No, thank you. Be happy to launch at first light.

No longer with them.


I did hear about this story. Apparently the IC was not a qualified
pilot and did not correctly understand the PIC authority. That IC was
relived of duty that day.

-Robert

On Nov 21, 5:51 pm, "Watson" wrote:
Maybe a different story.

The IC threatened to punish the squadron. And was successful by having the
squadron assigned plane removed for a matter of months. The squadron had to
write an apology and agree to fly night search missions in the mountains
with some concessions like: real search (not just an ELT, two pilots
onboard, both IFR and night current, etc). So much for PIC authority.

There is theCAPon paper, then there is the realCAP. They are vastly
different in my experience.

Interesting. Again that has not been my experience. I did hear that a
California IC tried to order a pilot to fly during the Fausett mission
after the pilot felt he was too tired. The IC threatened the pilot
with relieving him of duty for the next week. The pilot called his
commander who called the group commander who had the IC relieved
within a few hours.

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote

Interesting. Again that has not been my experience. I did hear that a
California IC tried to order a pilot to fly during the Fausett mission
after the pilot felt he was too tired. The IC threatened the pilot
with relieving him of duty for the next week. The pilot called his
commander who called the group commander who had the IC relieved
within a few hours.

I know I'm about to do a "forehead slap," but what does IC stand for?
Incident Commander, is my guess, but that is just a guess.
--
Jim in NC