How Aircraft Stay In The Air

In article ,
machf wrote:

But according to that theory, how do bees manage to fly, having no feathers or
hairs on their wings?
;-)

They have wing hairs, but they're *really* tiny:

http://science.exeter.edu/jekstrom/Color/Menu/Bee/Wing/Wing1C.jpg

http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/mem...sets/preset-3-
640x480.jpg

"Duke of URL" macbenahATkdsiDOTnet wrote in message ...
In ,
Peter Twydell radiated into the
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In article , Gord Beaman
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Peter Twydell wrote:
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George writes
Peter Twydell wrote in message
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There was some research into the theory of falling toast, and
it was discovered that the toast did not always land with the
buttered side down. Further investigation showed that this was
because the wrong side had been buttered.
I don't have the URL for this, unfortunately, so does anyone
know what methods are used to ensure that the correct side is
buttered?

That is an easy one. The side on the plate that is downward is
NOT the to be buttered side.
To create a machine of great simplicity just butter BOTH sides
and drop the slice of toast toward the floor.

This would IMHO lead to either:
the toast hovering above the floor, edge down, oscillating
laterally or the toast landing on its edge.

Even this would be acceptable if one could decide with certainty
*which* edge to butter...

Butter the EDGE? That's perverted. Socially unacceptable this side
of the Pond. Please don't bother us sensitive souls with the dark
practices that you get up to in the Colonies.

Well, of COURSE. If you don't, it's hard to get the little
bread-holder to retract into the laser-toaster in the computer.


butter all six sides and you're away

"Sarah Hotdesking" wrote:

:"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
.. .
:
: Even this would be acceptable if one could decide with certainty
: *which* edge to butter...
:
:And what butter to use ....

The real question is whether vegemite acts like butter in this
regard....

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 02:37:46 GMT, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

"Sarah Hotdesking" wrote:

:"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
. ..
:
: Even this would be acceptable if one could decide with certainty
: *which* edge to butter...
:
:And what butter to use ....

The real question is whether vegemite acts like butter in this
regard....


Vegemite not only looks and tastes like axle grease, it has the
viscosity of axle grease. Hmmmm...?

http://www.vegemite.com.au/


Phil
--
24 beers in a carton. 24 hours in a day. Hmmmm.......

In article , Sarah Hotdesking
writes
"Peter Twydell" wrote
Butter the EDGE? That's perverted. Socially unacceptable this side of
the Pond. Please don't bother us sensitive souls with the dark practices
that you get up to in the Colonies.

Edge-buttering is sometimes necessary for practitioners of the
daftDELDELrk Welsh practice of baragami
(http://members.aol.com/llewtrah/baragami.htm )

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Sarah H
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Aethism - a religion for the 21st Century


Offa's Dyke was built to keep that sort of thing out of England.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

In article , Fred J. McCall
writes
"Sarah Hotdesking" wrote:

:"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
. ..
:
: Even this would be acceptable if one could decide with certainty
: *which* edge to butter...
:
:And what butter to use ....

The real question is whether vegemite acts like butter in this
regard....


Nobody with any respect for their taste buds would even consider using
such filth.
--
Peter

Ying tong iddle-i po!

Phil Miller wrote:



The real question is whether vegemite acts like butter in this
regard....



Vegemite not only looks and tastes like axle grease, it has the
viscosity of axle grease. Hmmmm...?

http://www.vegemite.com.au/

Be careful I once made the same comparison and got a stern letter
demanding a retraction from the axle grease's lawyer

Vince

In ,
Peter Twydell radiated into the
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In article , Fred J.
McCall writes
"Sarah Hotdesking"
wrote:
:"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
...

Even this would be acceptable if one could decide with certainty
*which* edge to butter...

And what butter to use ....

The real question is whether vegemite acts like butter in this
regard....

Nobody with any respect for their taste buds would even consider
using such filth.

The name is vaguely familiar - what is it?
--
From the one-and-only Holy Moses®

On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:16:42 -0800, Steve Hix
wrote:

In article ,
machf wrote:

But according to that theory, how do bees manage to fly, having no feathers or
hairs on their wings?
;-)

They have wing hairs, but they're *really* tiny:

http://science.exeter.edu/jekstrom/Color/Menu/Bee/Wing/Wing1C.jpg

http://bugscope.beckman.uiuc.edu/mem...sets/preset-3-
640x480.jpg

I was hinting at what they usually say about aerodynamics being unable to
explain how bees can fly (or was it bumblebees?)...

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remove the "no_me_j." and "sons.of." parts before replying

Mike Lechnar wrote in message ...
How did this secret information make it into the public domain? I've
been a practicing Aircraft Performance Engineer for the past 26 years
and have always tried to explain how airplanes fly by using the official
public explanations regarding Bernoulli, airfoils and other such rot.
Civilians just weren't ready for the truth. In fact, we generally don't
speak about the magic directly. Most of our plans and estimates usually
end with the phrase "and then a miracle happens".

Mike Lechnar


Mike!

When will Boeing 747 get the "supercritical wing", with almost upper
surface?

B777 has it already!

Somebody wrote that the drag of the B747 could be reduced with some
15-18%, shifting to the new 3 generation "supercritical wing"


Jan-Olov Newborg