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Trailer Paint Scheme
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At 11:25 09 July 2009, Spam wrote: On Jul 8, 7:30=A0pm, KevinFinke wrote: My favorite thing to tell people is that I'm a member of the UWRSL Under Water Racing Submarine League... That's great! I'm going to start using that!!! Or... You could paint this image on the rudder.... http://www.vaq136.com/russians= /startitle.gif and while your driving wear one of these..... http://www.chapelbaitsupplies.co.uk/shop/images/HAT.jpg |
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On Jul 9, 9:45*am, Nyal Williams wrote:
Alligator Stud Service At 11:25 09 July 2009, Spam wrote: On Jul 8, 7:30=A0pm, KevinFinke *wrote: My favorite thing to tell people is that I'm a member of the UWRSL Under Water Racing Submarine League... That's great! *I'm going to start using that!!! Or... You could paint this image on the rudder.... http://www.vaq136.com/russians= /startitle.gif and while your driving wear one of these..... http://www.chapelbaitsupplies.co.uk/shop/images/HAT.jpg I'd copy the 'Cobra' logo. Make the letters four feet high, sailplane pilots will laugh and the general public will still be wondering... |
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Here's an example of a brewery sponsorship on a Cobra trailer. Go to
the bottom of the article for the image. I took this photo in 2002 while at Zbraslavice in the Czech Republic. Hey, the Czechs are #1 in per capita beer consumption, so why not! http://www.pacificsoaring.org/articles/Zbraslavice.html Kemp |
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On Jul 10, 2:44*pm, kizuno wrote:
Here's an example of a brewery sponsorship on a Cobra trailer. *Go to the bottom of the article for the image. *I took this photo in 2002 while at Zbraslavice in the Czech Republic. *Hey, the Czechs are #1 in per capita beer consumption, so why not! http://www.pacificsoaring.org/articles/Zbraslavice.html Kemp Hmmm I think a Michelob Golden Light logo would look pretty schanzzy on the side of Tony's trailer :-) Pete |
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I too spotted the USAF trailers at Parowan earlier this week, and
didn't fail to take a few shots (see last 5 photos). http://picasaweb.google.com/gens2000/Parowan20090705 -Gen On Jul 8, 8:28*pm, Dave Newill wrote: On Jul 8, 7:22*pm, "BT" wrote: be Patriotic Put parallel red and blue band, each about 4in wide and separated by 2 inches down the length of the side about 2/3 of the way from bottom to top. It gives contrast to the plain white trailer, and it looks good too. B "Tony Condon" wrote in message ... Im in the process of reskinning the trailer for the Cherokee and am nearly ready to start riveting aluminum. *I plan to paint it a nice white to help avoid cooking my glider. *Im thinking that a plain white trailer would be boring, what should I paint on it? *A few suggestions were a side view of the glider. *I also thought it would be cool to put some sort of landout map to document everywhere I've been. *Also,www.ssa.organdsince I live in Kansas now,www.soarkansas.orgwebsiteswould be good. *What does RAS think? -Tony Condon Cherokee II N373Y Take a look at the USAF Academy trailers for their Duo! I will try to post the photo on SSA website shortly. Graphics were done in some form of screen print - spectacular! |
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On Jul 8, 7:28*pm, Dave Newill wrote:
On Jul 8, 7:22*pm, "BT" wrote: be Patriotic Put parallel red and blue band, each about 4in wide and separated by 2 inches down the length of the side about 2/3 of the way from bottom to top. It gives contrast to the plain white trailer, and it looks good too. B "Tony Condon" wrote in message ... Im in the process of reskinning the trailer for the Cherokee and am nearly ready to start riveting aluminum. *I plan to paint it a nice white to help avoid cooking my glider. *Im thinking that a plain white trailer would be boring, what should I paint on it? *A few suggestions were a side view of the glider. *I also thought it would be cool to put some sort of landout map to document everywhere I've been. *Also,www.ssa.organdsince I live in Kansas now,www.soarkansas.orgwebsiteswould be good. *What does RAS think? -Tony Condon Cherokee II N373Y Take a look at the USAF Academy trailers for their Duo! I will try to post the photo on SSA website shortly. Graphics were done in some form of screen print - spectacular! It is likely a vehicle wrap, an adhesive vinyl film printed that has been printed using a large commercial inkjet printer. The same technology that is used for advertising on buses and commercial vehicles etc. Think many $K for artwork, production and installation. Still a full length missile launcher graphic would be ultra neat (and maybe cost more than the glider and trailer...). Darryl |
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On Jul 8, 9:15*am, Tony Condon
wrote: Im in the process of reskinning the trailer for the Cherokee and am nearly ready to start riveting aluminum. *I plan to paint it a nice white to help avoid cooking my glider. *Im thinking that a plain white trailer would be boring, what should I paint on it? *A few suggestions were a side view of the glider. *I also thought it would be cool to put some sort of landout map to document everywhere I've been. *Also,www.ssa.organd since I live in Kansas now,www.soarkansas.orgwebsites would be good. *What does RAS think? -Tony Condon Cherokee II N373Y Hey Tony, in my profession I study optics and the interaction of light with materials. Here's my suggestion. If you like the aluminum color (unpainted), it will stay as cool as white. Aluminum reflects essentially all the suns rays just like white scatters all of them, so if you paint it, it will probably get warmer than if you just leave it alone. I.e. natural silver color is the new white. Besides, zero upkeep. Bret |
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Bert,
Are you sure that is true? We have had two Schreder sailplanes tied down on the ramp side by side. The HP-14 is painted white. The HP-11 is polished aluminum. The HP-11 is defiantly hotter to the touch then the HP-14. Besides my personal experience, here is some information that was taken from a Soaring article published in Sept 1975. http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Co...olor_Temp.html "Bret" wrote in message ... On Jul 8, 9:15 am, Tony Condon wrote: Hey Tony, in my profession I study optics and the interaction of light with materials. Here's my suggestion. If you like the aluminum color (unpainted), it will stay as cool as white. Aluminum reflects essentially all the suns rays just like white scatters all of them, so if you paint it, it will probably get warmer than if you just leave it alone. I.e. natural silver color is the new white. Besides, zero upkeep. Bret |
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Wayne Paul wrote:
Bert, Are you sure that is true? We have had two Schreder sailplanes tied down on the ramp side by side. The HP-14 is painted white. The HP-11 is polished aluminum. The HP-11 is defiantly hotter to the touch then the HP-14. Besides my personal experience, here is some information that was taken from a Soaring article published in Sept 1975. http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/Co...olor_Temp.html "Bret" wrote in message ... On Jul 8, 9:15 am, Tony Condon wrote: Hey Tony, in my profession I study optics and the interaction of light with materials. Here's my suggestion. If you like the aluminum color (unpainted), it will stay as cool as white. Aluminum reflects essentially all the suns rays just like white scatters all of them, so if you paint it, it will probably get warmer than if you just leave it alone. I.e. natural silver color is the new white. Besides, zero upkeep. My measurements of unpainted and white painted aluminum trailers is the unpainted surface is hotter, perhaps as much as the 10 degrees shown in the chart Wayne references. I suspect the explanation for this is more complicated than the reflectivity of the the two surfaces, as it also involves the emissivity of the surfaces. Even so, the temperatures of gliders inside the painted and unpainted trailers I measured varied very little. In my analysis, this is accounted for by air stratification: 1) The air next to the trailer skin that is in the sun heats and rises, forming a 6" or so thick layer at the top of the trailer. This stagnate layer of hot air makes the top of the trailer very hot, so it loses heat to the atmosphere and prevents further heating inside the trailer. 2) The skin that isn't in the sunlight loses heat to the outside air. This cooled air sinks, further increasing the stratification. The net result is that only the 6" or so of air at the top of the trailer is very hot in either trailer, but that doesn't harm the glider because only the tail fin is exposed to this heat. Most of the glider components are lower in the trailer, where the air temperature is only a few degrees above ambient. This is most easily measured using a IR thermometer, but even a typical indoor/outdoor thermometer with a probe can do the job. I decided to leave my trailer unpainted, as there seemed to be no benefit to the glider, and painting would add cost and maintenance. I'd rather spend my time and money on flying. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA * Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly * "Transponders in Sailplanes" http://tinyurl.com/y739x4 * Sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more * "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org |
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Wonderfull discussion, and thanks Eric and Bret for the info and
observations, just what this forum is for. All the above being said, I need to paint my Eberle trailer this winter, my brother recomends a new auto paint that is water based and easy to apply. Just a plain white surface and then hire my nephew who is an aspiring artist to paint my Libelle with a mountain scene on each side. One with Mt. Whitney in the background, and one with Lake Tahoe in the back. What do you think? Support the Arts and hire a young artist! Wayne, FreeFlight Libelle PS, for the midWest, a giant cloud street with farms in the backgroud? Thermaling in a Cow fart? |
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