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Experimental exhibition limitations question
I am working toward my glider rating and have an opportunity to purchase a
Russia AC-4A which is registered in the Experimental Exhibition Racing Category. I am concerned about the limitations that the registration will present as compared to a standard category glider. Is there someone that could summarize for me what my legal and practical limitations would be? I spent last night attempting to navigate the FAA web site to refresh my memory as to the letter of the law but I was unable to find any documentation that spelled out the legal limitations of Experimental Exhibition Racing. I know that there is a limit to the number of miles you can travel from your home airport but I am not sure if that applies to the airport you departed from or if you have to declare one home airport. I would assume that any cross country flying may be affected but I am not sure to what extent. It was mentioned to me that there are annual reporting requirements too. Regards, Bob Tezyk |
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Comcast wrote: I am working toward my glider rating and have an opportunity to purchase a Russia AC-4A which is registered in the Experimental Exhibition Racing Category. I am concerned about the limitations that the registration will present as compared to a standard category glider. Is there someone that could summarize for me what my legal and practical limitations would be? I spent last night attempting to navigate the FAA web site to refresh my memory as to the letter of the law but I was unable to find any documentation that spelled out the legal limitations of Experimental Exhibition Racing. I know that there is a limit to the number of miles you can travel from your home airport but I am not sure if that applies to the airport you departed from or if you have to declare one home airport. I would assume that any cross country flying may be affected but I am not sure to what extent. It was mentioned to me that there are annual reporting requirements too. Regards, Bob Tezyk Ask the seller for a copy of his Special Airworthiness Certificate and attached Operating Limitations and Program Letter and valid W&B. As the Special Airworthiness Certificate will become invalid upon change of base of operations, you will need to complete http://forms.faa.gov/forms/faa8130-6d.pdf. Verify that the required Flight Test completion statement is recorded in the aircraft logbook (see 14 CFR 91 part 91.319(b)) If it isn't you (or the new owner) will need to comply. If it's there, then you may fly the glider under the extended limitations. Operation is limited to the purposes stated in the operating limitations and events outline in your Program Letter and proficiency/practice flights. Normally a 300 mile radius, though some flights may be made without this restriction. You will need the FSDO or a DAR to write your new operating limitations, you write the accompanying program letter. See Section 10, http://tinyurl.com/8a4l3 got Group I applicability (Group I or ALL by paragraph) for general Operating Limitations guidance. You'll need a condition inspection every 12 months and to submit a new Program Letter annually. Written amendments to your program letter may be submitted at any time (as well as a new program letter), but at least 24 hours by FAX to your local FSDO. The Operating Limitations become part of your FAA Form 8130-7, Special Airworthiness Certificate and must be carried in the aircraft. It may look daunting at first, but it's a very straight forward process. If you can fly the Russia out of the 300mile radius regularly, you'll be doing very well indeed;^) Be sure the placards are in place and N number is on the panel and EXPERIMENTAL is visible to pilot. Frank Whiteley |
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Operation is limited to
the purposes stated in the operating limitations and events outline in your Program Letter and proficiency/practice flights. Normally a 300 mile radius, though some flights may be made without this restriction. That is, events outlined in your Program Letter may well lie outside the 300 mile radius, e.g. FAI and SSA sanctioned meets, camps and flights in pursuit of FAI or SSA awards, and so on. Frank |
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Yeah, I was assuming the Russia was post moratorium, like the glider I
recently purchased. That being said, the two prior owners clearly never read the operating limitations for it. That would have only come to the attention of the FAA in the event of an incident or ramp check followup. What matters is that the current owner is in compliance. You're right about pre-moratorium gliders. Less hassle for sure. I agree that for most single place gliders, Experimental Exhibition and Racing is the better option for the owner. However, this is not the FAA's official position with the manufacturers. OBTW, if you do buy, don't forget to PRINT your name under your signature on the registration form (too many hours on the road, the form has a design issue, and requirement is from 2004, think Homeland Security). Just spent an ADDITIONAL 21 days getting the error correction through the FAA batch processing:^( Hopefully the 'fly-wire' FAX will arrive today. Hard copy won't arrive until next week. Frank |
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Some life insurance policies don't provide coverage for flight in
experimental aircraft. That may, or may not, be a concern for you. Andy |
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Pre-1993 Ops Limitations are pre-moratorium and do not require renewal or anything else annually or when the glider is sold. Lots of details in the FAA Order 8130.2F, go to www.faa.gov and search for orders or 8130.2F. That order has sample Ops Limitations for each category. Don't forget to carry a current copy of the SSA dataplate exemption (available on the SSA website) in your glider along with your Ops Limitations, etc. Unless you have an external dataplate, of course. Jim |
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"jphoenix" wrote in message oups.com... Pre-1993 Ops Limitations are pre-moratorium and do not require renewal or anything else annually or when the glider is sold. Lots of details in the FAA Order 8130.2F, go to www.faa.gov and search for orders or 8130.2F. That order has sample Ops Limitations for each category. Don't forget to carry a current copy of the SSA dataplate exemption (available on the SSA website) in your glider along with your Ops Limitations, etc. Unless you have an external dataplate, of course. Jim Thanks for that. My Nimbus 2C with an Exhibition & Racing Airworthiness Certificate is to get it's annual condition inspection and I was worried that the AI doing it might object to the unrestricted pre-'93 ops limitations letter. Now I can point him to the right FAA order. Bill Daniels |
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Frank and Todd,
Thank you all of that good information. I will take your suggestions and look at all of the documentation you outlined. I will get to see the glider on Sunday so I will let you know what happens. Would you mind if I got in touch directly via email if I have any more questions? Regards, Bob Tezyk |
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