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#42
July 7th 04, 12:52 AM
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 00:07:41 +0000, Badwater Bill wrote:
On 6 Jul 2004 12:22:48 -0700, (bryan chaisone) wrote: As I have apologized to you in my response to your private email to me, I apologize to you here publicly. What I said was said in the heat of passion, I humbly apologize. Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone Don't you love it Bryan! I mean the HEAT of PASSION! Hell most of the old ****s here couldn't get their heart rate up of a naked woman walked by them. At least you are alive my man! And to top it all off, he had the guts to admit he was getting passionate about you, BWB. Not many guys would dare to admit that. At least not here where many folks know what you look like  -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ e-mail: khorton02(_at_)rogers(_dot_)com 
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#43
July 7th 04, 02:03 AM
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:32:28 GMT, "Bruce A. Frank"
wrote: Gee, Bill, I actually remember your inadvertent post about a belt failure. (intended as a private post). I was also aware of a statement from someone that belt failures were because of the type of belt being used in the beginning and the fact that there was not enough airflow around the PSRU. The inadequately cooled belt would soften and the cog teeth would strip. I believe the belt at that time was a urethane construction which couldn't take the heat as well as belts of other construction. You're right. I remember thinking that there might be a cooling issue that caused me to trash that belt on the ground test. And, since we had a batch of weak belts maybe that had something to do with the belt failure I had. A defective belt, plus some excessive heating might have caused a problem. But an experimental test on the ground on a research project is simply another data point. It's not a PSRU failure or a safety issue. I remember the test and I was torquing that belt from zero to full throttle, back and forth in hot conditions, on the ground with no air flow over the PSRU and/or the belt. That was hardly a "Flying" scenario. It was designed to ferret out any weaknesses we had before we went on. And, guess what it did? It found a faulty belt problem on the ground before it killed me as the test pilot. When we did fly the thing, I remember that Jess and Tom put temp probes all over that thing . In the air ,the cooling was way more than what was needed. If I recall correctly I think the belt ran at almost ambient temperature while flying. At high altitudes in the winter we actually worried that the belt might be too brittle because of the cooling. But, we never had a failure. And after I was off the project, Jess flew the snot out of it and he never had a failure either. BWB
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#44
July 7th 04, 02:07 AM
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When I get that Lancair Legacy done in a couple years, you are my first invitation to come out and take a ride at 300 mph! Just bought my O-550 today. Whaa-Hoooo That baby is gonna go with the super charger on it at flight level 250! I just hope I don't die of old age before I finish it and fly it. But, considering that the thing is a "Lick and Stick" it ought to go fast. I mean after two weeks at the factory using their jigs, you bring home a glued together fuselage and the wings are closed. So, you just lick it and stick it and the body is almost there. No 20,000 rivets. Eat your heart out Amp Meter and you other RV builders! Ha! BWB At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same?? Hell, I don't know about BWB but I would have every bit as much confidence that the composite will hold together just as well and just as long as your rivets. How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area?? I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and simply flows through with little or no voltage drop... John Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the ground. Bob Reed www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site) KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress.... "Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!" (M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)
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#45
July 7th 04, 02:52 AM
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At least, I KNOW every damned rivet and I KNEW that it wouldn't fall apart at altitude. Do you have the same confidence that the composite "glue" will do the same?? How cold is it at altitude? What happens when you get a lightening strike on that fuselage? With the resistance of the composite fuselage you'll get a tremendous voltage drop across it when the lightening strikes. And Power equals voltage drop times current. How do you think you'll like dissipating a megawatthour of energy in that small area?? I'll stick to metal airplanes... Lightening hits them and simply flows through with little or no voltage drop... John I was in a good mood until I read this. Now I'm suicidal! All bull**** aside John, you bring up some great concerns as usual. I have no idea how it will behave under those conditions. I might just "POP" into another dimension or something. I may hurdle to my death. All I can say is "What the ****...over!" I've probably lived too long already...almost like a cat with 9 lives...I've been sooo close, sooo many times! I want to tell you all something. If I buy the farm in a Lancair Legacy that I built, then I want all of you to rejoice at my life and know that I lived it to the fullest as I came to a screaming halt into the Earth at Mach 0.7 due to a structural failure. I want you to post this post if I punch in doing what I love to do...going fast, taking chances, flying and living life. I don't have a death wish. But, on the other hand, I have no intention of hiding my head under my bed when there are 300 mph airplanes to be built and flown...and finally after 50 years of being a poor Black Jewish Christian Hebrew ******* child from Boulder City, I personally have the means to produce such a machine for my own personal (and Boom Boom's) use. Best Wishes to all, BWB P.S. I will make sure that I put compete EFIS in it so I can roll it continuously without tumbling any gyroscopes. I just pulled a gyro today that I trashed from looping the machine I fly. No more! Not with the Legacy. It will be all EFIS.
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#46
July 7th 04, 02:58 AM
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Wow, in the total scheme of things, how many planes are hit by lightning? If you are that leary of flying and lightning, I would suggest you stay on the ground. Bob Reed I hate to say this about my close friend John. But, he does stay on the ground. He hasn't flown in the 8 years I've known him. I wish he would build another high performance airplane and get us butt up again. He's a great guy and a hero in my eyes for many reasons. I just wish he flew more. I know he dreams about it or he wouldn't be here. John, get your ass back into the sky buddy. Time is running out. We are growing old at an exponential rate. Take advantage of the next 10 years because 10 years from now you might not be able to get a medical or some other sinister thing like that. I think we here in RAH all ought to have a lynch-mob mentality and get Amp Meter up in the air again. Let's pick on him collectively! In fact, John, if you want to come down here, I'll get you on the insurance of the RV-6 I used to own and you can fly the **** out of it. I know you are building a house now and don't have time. But in a year or so when that's done, you are welcome to fly anything I have access to just so I can get you back up. Now do it or be square! BWB
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#47
July 7th 04, 03:06 AM
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#48
July 7th 04, 03:12 AM
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#49
July 7th 04, 03:16 AM
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I also want an airplane that is able to fly so slow that I can 'hover' over the nudist camp... John That sounds like a Feisler Storch. Tony
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#50
July 7th 04, 04:34 AM
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Yah, I know you're right about all that. I got offended and over reacted (again).
Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone (pacplyer) wrote in message . com... (bryan chaisone) wrote Calling people names is just not wise. You never know how a person will react, especially people you have only met on the net. Personally calling people names really turns me off. I loose all respect and admiration for the smartest and most experienced people just because they are arrogant and ignorant. The smartest people, and those that think they are smart are clueless themselves. If they were smart, they wouldn't resort to calling names or resort to threat. If they were smart they'd just go ahead and do what they said they'd do and not give any warning. snip Bryan "The Monk" Chaisone Bryan, Bryan, Bryan. In aviation, which I've been in all of my life, you accord respect to those who have been practicing the prior art successfully for more man-years than you have, because it is not wise to do otherwise. Professional pilots have the benefit of living in a real world classroom for ten to twenty years (sometimes less) before they become PIC. Single pilot ops at 500 hrs are the most dangerous kind in aviation but you guys seem to think after the government's done mistraining you, that you can't be killed since you're a polite person in society and the FAA's looking out for you. You see locker room language and extensions of middle fingers on the screen, whereas, I see emotion that's trying to tell me something important from a man with more experience in that area than I have. Over 80% of human communication is through facial expressions. The only way to covey facial expression on this type of medium is through "smileys" or to expand your vocabulary (including the use of profanity to convey emotion.) We all would like to avoid mud-fights, but in this case I think Corky was challenging BWB's honesty (solely because Bill was featured in Kitplanes,) and Bill had a right to defend it. Now I don't want to see this type of theater from you Bryan, because you aren't an experienced builder/instructor yet. You probably still have a lot to learn. Guys like BWB and BYB are IMHO valuable resources to draw on for the NG. I don't get along with them half the time myself, but I try to overlook their faults (especially BOb's) and realize that personalities like these, that don't care what others think of them, are usually the most honest posters when it comes to content. They post to amuse themselves and impart some reality to the group. Whereas the average polite poster frequently: 1: has no idea what he's talking about. 2: Worries so much about how he will be perceived that even if he did know what he was talking about, would never dare to voraciously correct something he's an expert on for fear of unfair reprisal in the real world. Now you referenced someone kicking the **** out of BWB in the real world. If someone can't win an argument on the net and they take things to underhanded road-rage levels in the real world, (stabbing holes in airplanes or hacking computers) they shouldn't be surprised if it escalates into their back yard on some dark night. But we're just not going to use the same PC yardstick for old-school guys like these who are hanging around here for free, trying to give you a different perspective on flying and building. If it's too salty, why don't you head on over to: rec.domestic.teaparty and I'm sure they will moderate out any offensive historical truths about trading tea for opium, so your polite tea-sipping won't be disturbed. Sorry Bryan, but I'm not just going to sit here and watch you lecture the instructor on his choice of language. If you don't like it, don't take his class. We like you Bryan buddy, but changing people is usually not possible. pacplyer - out
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