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I have a half hour programme recorded about this incident with a lot of
comment from the pilots involved. If I can get hold of an analogue TV adaptor for my PC, I'll digitise it and send it over. That would be great, Paul. Thanks! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there?
It does have a very tenuous flying connection, and it is hilarious. It is the sickest, most warped advertisement I've ever seen. It truly makes me wonder about European consumers, if this ad actually works to sell cars. And, God help me, I love it! It's the funniest danged thing I've ever seen. ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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May I suggest that 'Cool Videos' might give the wrong impression, when
quite a few people die in the incidents depicted? Good point. The "Cool Videos" title pre-dates many of the tragic videos that are now on that page. I shall change it to something more appropriate when I get a minute. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:soh%c.18352$vy.11013@attbi_s52... What the hell is the fake bird ad for the Ford Ka doing there? It does have a very tenuous flying connection, and it is hilarious. It is the sickest, most warped advertisement I've ever seen. Apart from the cat one I sent you the link for... Though that one didn't make the grade for actually being shown on TV. It truly makes me wonder about European consumers, if this ad actually works to sell cars. And, God help me, I love it! It's the funniest danged thing I've ever seen. Paul |
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I, on the other hand, am interested in maintaining (and expanding) a very
popular page on our website, not because it nets me any money (it does not) Could you possibly be a little disingenuous here? You are much too clever to have not realized how a "popular" web site might be an advertisement for the "Inn." :-) Although it may serve as something of an advertisement, it is -- at best -- an ineffective one. And when you factor in the number of hours I've spent on that stupid page (both creating it, maintaining, and helping people from all over the world view the videos), I'd have been better off wallpapering a suite with hundred-dollar bills... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:fjl%c.2819$%y.2415@attbi_s51... I, on the other hand, am interested in maintaining (and expanding) a very popular page on our website, not because it nets me any money (it does not) Could you possibly be a little disingenuous here? You are much too clever to have not realized how a "popular" web site might be an advertisement for the "Inn." :-) Although it may serve as something of an advertisement, it is -- at best -- an ineffective one. And when you factor in the number of hours I've spent on that stupid page (both creating it, maintaining, and helping people from all over the world view the videos), I'd have been better off wallpapering a suite with hundred-dollar bills... ;-) Yes, but it's the THOUGHT that counts though, doesn't it? "Cool Videos" is just the right term to pick for depicting people dying in airplane crashes.....why it's JUST the thing for a guy who's everyone's equal in the 'ethics" department!! Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship |
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"Cool Videos" is just the right term to pick for depicting people dying in
airplane crashes.....why it's JUST the thing for a guy who's everyone's equal in the 'ethics" department!! This issue has already been addressed in other posts in both threads. You might consider checking them out before shooting off your electronic mouth. However, for your sake I'll reiterate the point: The "Cool Videos" page name pre-dates most of the videos. When I started the page, it WAS just cool videos, with aerobatics, supersonic passes, and landings in Iowa City depicted. Over time, the page has grown to include accidents, miscalculations, and mechanical failures, as well as video of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. As I stated earlier, the point (already made by an earlier poster) is well taken, and I will be changing the name of the page to something more appropriate when I get a minute. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"Cool Videos" is just the right term to pick for depicting people dying in airplane crashes.....why it's JUST the thing for a guy who's everyone's equal in the 'ethics" department!! ************************************************** *** TO THE GROUP..... Regarding Iwan Bogels" Michael wrote: As it is, you have a freak show and little else. For the last number of days Iwan Bogels" has crossposted the same or similar message into a variety of groups like this inviting you to visit his site, and view his videos, so that you may become educated, and learn from the mistakes of others. In the piloting newsgroups he has been trying to justify his freakshow with a number of the regulars who surprising enough for the most part didn't see all that much wrong with it. For the groups information. A few years ago when the reality TV programs started to hit the air, there was someone named Jeremy Peevers ( I believe ) and others who were posting to the aviation newsgroups looking for footage similar to what Mr. Bogels is showing on his website. In the rec.aviation.homebuilt, and rec.aviation.rotorcraft groups (where I generally lurk) they were basically told to **** off by the majority or regulars who were offended that someone was looking for death and destruction videos so they could be shown of national TV for a profit under the guise of entertainment. I personally asked on numerous times (in the group) if Real TV would be interested in clear, well lit, sharply focused, footage of a young girl being decapitated by a helicopter rotor and how much they would be willing to pay. That usually shut them up. They didn't want videos of people out actually enjoying a day at the airport, with shots of airplanes taking off, flying and landing. They wanted videos of total destruction, fireballs, cartwheels, well ........ you get the picture. The other day Iwan Bogels" crossposted his message into this set of newsgroups looking for hits to his site. alt.disasters.aviation, fr.rec.aviation, rec.aviation.military, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.aviation.soaring Yesterday he decided to crosspost his message into this set of newsgroups. alt.aviation.safety, aus.aviation, rec.aviation.homebuilt, rec.aviation.ifr, rec.aviation.student And today he is crosspoting to this set of newsgroups rec.aviation.rotorcraft, rec.aviation.student, rec.models.rc.helicopter God knows where he will be tomorrow. I'm certainly not telling anybody what they should or shouldn't look at on the Web but let's not delude ourselves into believing the pitch from Mr. Bogels this his site is for educational purposes so that pilots, etc., can learn from the mistakes of others by watching these videos. As another poster has stated..... And I am quoting him below. As it is, you have a freak show and little else. Mr. Bogel...... In my humble opinion the above quoted statement is hitting the nail squarly on the head and you can dress your site up any way you want, and explain anyway you want.... but in my opinion you are promoting a freak show site and nothing else. |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:gwn%c.19949$vy.3595@attbi_s52... "Cool Videos" is just the right term to pick for depicting people dying in airplane crashes.....why it's JUST the thing for a guy who's everyone's equal in the 'ethics" department!! This issue has already been addressed in other posts in both threads. You might consider checking them out before shooting off your electronic mouth. However, for your sake I'll reiterate the point: The "Cool Videos" page name pre-dates most of the videos. When I started the page, it WAS just cool videos, with aerobatics, supersonic passes, and landings in Iowa City depicted. Over time, the page has grown to include accidents, miscalculations, and mechanical failures, as well as video of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center. As I stated earlier, the point (already made by an earlier poster) is well taken, and I will be changing the name of the page to something more appropriate when I get a minute. Well, I'll give you this much Honek. I missed your "cool" sign for some reason the first time I checked out your site and posted back on your "request" that I join you in "changing" things I've already been changing for the last fifty years; not realizing that sign was there. My mistake! I don't give a rat's ass how many posts have addressed this issue. One fact remains for me when dealing with you on this, and that is the simple fact that of all the titles you could have used for a site showing people dying in airplanes you actively thought about it and CHOSE the phrase "COOL". Then, knowing you had this heading on your site on top of these people dying in crashes, you had the audacity to engage someone who has spent a lifetime in flight safety and has been published all over the world on the subject who's dealing with another moron with a "crashes that are "cool" to watch site, and state that you have ethical equivalence; all the time knowing your site is geared to steering people toward you pushing a ****ing hotel for profit. Get lost you GD creep and if you still believe that picking the heading "COOL" for that ****ing site was a good idea, you just leave it there while I steer every GD contact I have in the aviation world over there to see it with my comments added for flavor! Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship |
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Thank you for posting this. On these groups it probably won't change
anything, but thank you anyway. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship "Shiver Me Timbers" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "Cool Videos" is just the right term to pick for depicting people dying in airplane crashes.....why it's JUST the thing for a guy who's everyone's equal in the 'ethics" department!! ************************************************** *** TO THE GROUP..... Regarding Iwan Bogels" Michael wrote: As it is, you have a freak show and little else. For the last number of days Iwan Bogels" has crossposted the same or similar message into a variety of groups like this inviting you to visit his site, and view his videos, so that you may become educated, and learn from the mistakes of others. In the piloting newsgroups he has been trying to justify his freakshow with a number of the regulars who surprising enough for the most part didn't see all that much wrong with it. For the groups information. A few years ago when the reality TV programs started to hit the air, there was someone named Jeremy Peevers ( I believe ) and others who were posting to the aviation newsgroups looking for footage similar to what Mr. Bogels is showing on his website. In the rec.aviation.homebuilt, and rec.aviation.rotorcraft groups (where I generally lurk) they were basically told to **** off by the majority or regulars who were offended that someone was looking for death and destruction videos so they could be shown of national TV for a profit under the guise of entertainment. I personally asked on numerous times (in the group) if Real TV would be interested in clear, well lit, sharply focused, footage of a young girl being decapitated by a helicopter rotor and how much they would be willing to pay. That usually shut them up. They didn't want videos of people out actually enjoying a day at the airport, with shots of airplanes taking off, flying and landing. They wanted videos of total destruction, fireballs, cartwheels, well ........ you get the picture. The other day Iwan Bogels" crossposted his message into this set of newsgroups looking for hits to his site. alt.disasters.aviation, fr.rec.aviation, rec.aviation.military, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.aviation.soaring Yesterday he decided to crosspost his message into this set of newsgroups. alt.aviation.safety, aus.aviation, rec.aviation.homebuilt, rec.aviation.ifr, rec.aviation.student And today he is crosspoting to this set of newsgroups rec.aviation.rotorcraft, rec.aviation.student, rec.models.rc.helicopter God knows where he will be tomorrow. I'm certainly not telling anybody what they should or shouldn't look at on the Web but let's not delude ourselves into believing the pitch from Mr. Bogels this his site is for educational purposes so that pilots, etc., can learn from the mistakes of others by watching these videos. As another poster has stated..... And I am quoting him below. As it is, you have a freak show and little else. Mr. Bogel...... In my humble opinion the above quoted statement is hitting the nail squarly on the head and you can dress your site up any way you want, and explain anyway you want.... but in my opinion you are promoting a freak show site and nothing else. |
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