Why did Bush join the national guard?

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: (BUFDRVR)
Date: 9/5/2004 8:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
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ArtKramr wrote:

Get back to me after you have fought in a real war.

Which by your definition would be impossible. The only Kramer recognized
"real
war" was the ETO between 1943-1945. Since my parents were both born in 1944,
by
birth I was assured of not fighting in a Kramer recognized "real war".


Too bad. We really missed you. How did we ever win without BUSDRVER?.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

instead of attacking everyone

I've yet to hear back from Guiness, but that may be the worlds most
hipocritical statement ever recorded.....


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"Chris" wrote in message
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(ArtKramr) wrote in
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"
Date: 9/5/2004 7:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
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I was born in 1962. A bit late for WWII, OK? Now, that said, the
numbers speak for themselves--or are you going to say the old War
Department statistics are all wrong? And for the last time--NOBODY
wants to be you, OK? Who wants to become a sad, whining, bitter little
twit with a serious self-esteem problem like the sorry excuse for a
man that you have become?

Brooks





Arthur Kramer


So you admit to your sniveling military cowardice. I thought so


??

Branding people who were born after WW2 as displaying 'snivelling
military cowardice' for not participating is just plain bizzare. Or did I
read that wrong?

No, Art is indeed bizarre. He regularly labels any veteran who did not do
*exactly* what he (supposedly) did during WWII as being cowardly, etc. You
gotta consider the source; a sad little old man trying to pump up his own
flagging self-esteem in any way he can, even if it in the end just makes him
look even more pitiful.

Brooks

Pete wrote:

6 million of the 9 million people on active duty during the Vietnam era
never saw SEA. Will you belittle their service as well?

Uhh...have you not been reading his crap since about 1999? He belittles the
service of everyone (except John Kerry) who didn't fly B-26s in the ETO between
1943 and 1945.

The best part of his rants is where he curses people for slandering Kerry's
service, than he slanders the service of others. Its really gotten pathetic.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: J Haggerty
Date: 9/5/2004 6:55 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: dsP_c.5279$OZ6.1847@okepread06

Why did you join the Army Air Corps instead of the infantry, Navy, Coast
Guard, or Marines?

Keep in mind the following as you peruse the following fresh load of
steaming horse manure--Art apparently left out something this time, as IIRC
he previously informed us (not too long ago, too) that he joined the USAAF
one step ahead of his dreaded draft notice arriving at his door. Kind of
puts things into better perspective, doncha think?

Also, most old vets I have talked to who expressed that same desire you see
Art expressing below, about not wanting the war to end before they got into
it, usually accompany such words with something along the line of, "That
shows how young and stupid I was", having grown to appreciate the additional
pain and suffering that each extended day of warfare translated into--Art
however still ruminates and brags about how glad he was, which makes one
wonder how much touch with reality he really has these days.

Brooks


Good question that deserves a serious answer. I was in my senior year at
Abraham Lincoln High School in New York. We were visited by recruiting
officers
from the Air Corps,, The Navy and the Marines. They made extensive
presentations about just what it would be like to join their services.
They had
combat veterans back from action address us and tell us how much we were
needed
and what it would be like to serve with them. I was taken by two
presentations;
the Army AIr Corps and the Navy V5 program which was naval aviation. I
opted
for the Air Corps. I had to take a lot of tests; written oral and physical
Upon
passing all of them I was informed that I was accepted as an AIr Corps
Cadet
candidate and would be called up after my high school graduation. I was
interested in the Naval aviation program almost as much as the AAC
presntaion
but since I could only shoose one I took the Army Air corps. As the term
came
to an end I anxiously awaited my graduation and my call up into the Air
Cadet
program. But I had one overiding fear. I was afraid the war would end
before I
got there. It didn't. But I never for one moment considered joining the
reserve. I really wanted ot go to war, not avoid it.But i was very
young.But
the rest of the guys in my HS class flet just as I did. And of all of us
that
chose the Army AIr Corps from that class, I was the only surivor.




Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:

But I never for one moment considered joining the
reserve. I really wanted ot go to war, not avoid it.

Go get 'em Brooks...or are you tired of correcting him on this issue?


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"Jack G" wrote in message
news:u%O_c.1355$Q44.198@trnddc09...

How the Hell would you know Art - you obviously don't have any direct
experience with history books...


Nor does he have any direct experience with knowledge.

"BUFDRVR" wrote in message
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ArtKramr wrote:

But I never for one moment considered joining the
reserve. I really wanted ot go to war, not avoid it.

Go get 'em Brooks...or are you tired of correcting him on this issue?

What is the point anymore? It is now painfully obvious to anyone with half a
brain that Art is a pathological liar, especially when it comes to his
defaming the reputation of entire reserve components that had in fact been
in federal service for almost three *years* before he was even eligable to
enlist, or making false statements such as joining the reserves was an
option he then had, when in fact there was NO reserve organization left by
that time. I notice that even Art's usual band of posterior-embracing idiots
have grown rather silent of late--I think he has finally managed to drive
off even those few folks now. I am guessing he is not far from one of his,
"I won't take this any longer, I am leaving RAM for good!" snits, to which
most will obviously reply, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way
out..."

Brooks



BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it
harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"

uessing he is not far from one of his,
"I won't take this any longer, I am leaving RAM for good!" snits, to which
most will obviously reply, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way
out..."

I'm not going anywhere. I am here to stay to remind all of your military
cowardice.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Kevin Brooks"

uessing he is not far from one of his,
"I won't take this any longer, I am leaving RAM for good!" snits, to
which
most will obviously reply, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the
way
out..."

I'm not going anywhere. I am here to stay to remind all of your military
cowardice.

You are lying again--can you even tell when you are doing that these days?

Brooks



Arthur Kramer