If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#61
|
|||
|
|||
Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 2:47 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: et "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message .. . And as far as I know, nobody was flying B26's during the Vietnam era. Well, not Martin B-26s. And the highest rate of killing its crews.One a day in Tampa Bay. The widowmaker, The B-dash-Crash.The flying Prostitute, The Flying Coffin. Got it now wannabee? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
#62
|
|||
|
|||
"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." Date: 9/5/2004 2:43 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." Date: 9/5/2004 1:52 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." Date: 9/5/2004 1:17 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "George Z. Bush" am Date: 9/5/2004 12:33 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Jack G wrote: OK Art, tell that to a combat Marine - face to face. If all that happens is he asks you where you fought - and then laughs in your face when you tell him you will be a very lucky man. Jack G. Just for the record, Jack, during WWII, the 8th Air Force sustained more casualties over Europe than the entire United States Marine Corps did world-wide throughout the entire war. If you don't believe me, just ask the right questions and they'll provide the same answer that I just did....I know because I've already done it. George Z. That's just the 8th. Then add the 9th and the 15th and all the air forces in the Pacific and you have a total that makes air duty the most hazardous in the history of of warfare. Wanna live? Join anything but the Air Forces.. Or fly B-52's over Iraq. Or do what Bush did. which was nothing. You mean, 'which was fly a dangerous, difficult, occasionally explosive, 1950's vintage supersonic interceptor for 3 years.' Piece of cake compared ot a B-26 Marauder. Check rhe records. And what did you fly? I wasn't even alive until 1977. And as far as I know, nobody was flying B26's during the Vietnam era. So try to compare apples to apples. At the time, the F102 was a far more perilous aircraft than many of the others flying at the time. How the hell would you know? So nobody is able to know anything until the point of their actual birth? Kind of defeats the purpose of history books, no? I know because I've looked into it, the same way I know that there are pyramids in Egypt. A very distant and impersonal route to knowledge. But almost always the only one available. Did you personally fly every aircraft of the Vietnam era in order to make comparisons regarding their flight characteristics? No, probably not. Just being alive at the time does not give you an automatic knowledge of such things, and likewise, not having been born yet does not necessarially mean that you don't know anything about the subject either. |
#64
|
|||
|
|||
"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 2:47 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: et "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message . .. And as far as I know, nobody was flying B26's during the Vietnam era. Well, not Martin B-26s. And the highest rate of killing its crews.One a day in Tampa Bay. The widowmaker, The B-dash-Crash.The flying Prostitute, The Flying Coffin. Actually, the B-26 had the lowest rate of killing it's crews. Got it now wannabee? Nobody wants to be like you. |
#65
|
|||
|
|||
Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 2:50 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: . net "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Champaign is in Illinois, not Texas. It is used as an adjective. Not a noun. Then it is used improperly. Then slap his wrist oh mighty warrior Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
#66
|
|||
|
|||
Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 3:00 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: . net "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard? From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 2:47 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: et "Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message .. . And as far as I know, nobody was flying B26's during the Vietnam era. Well, not Martin B-26s. And the highest rate of killing its crews.One a day in Tampa Bay. The widowmaker, The B-dash-Crash.The flying Prostitute, The Flying Coffin. Actually, the B-26 had the lowest rate of killing it's crews. Total absolute bull**** as usual I flew a tour in B-26's and I don't need opinions from wannabeees like you who have zero air time in a B-26's or anything else. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
#67
|
|||
|
|||
"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message ... But almost always the only one available. Did you personally fly every aircraft of the Vietnam era in order to make comparisons regarding their flight characteristics? No, probably not. Just being alive at the time does not give you an automatic knowledge of such things, and likewise, not having been born yet does not necessarially mean that you don't know anything about the subject either. Art knows nothing of Vietnam era aircraft. Art has learned nothing of military aviation since the day he left the USAAF. |
#68
|
|||
|
|||
"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Actually, the B-26 had the lowest rate of killing it's crews. Total absolute bull**** as usual I flew a tour in B-26's and I don't need opinions from wannabeees like you who have zero air time in a B-26's or anything else. It wasn't an opinion. Anybody that knows anything about the Martin B-26 knows it had the lowest loss rate. But don't take my word for it, look it up yourself. Any B-26 reference will show it. |
#69
|
|||
|
|||
Subject: Why did Bush join the national guard?
From: "Steven P. McNicoll" Date: 9/5/2004 3:11 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: . net "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Actually, the B-26 had the lowest rate of killing it's crews. Total absolute bull**** as usual I flew a tour in B-26's and I don't need opinions from wannabeees like you who have zero air time in a B-26's or anything else. It wasn't an opinion. Anybody that knows anything about the Martin B-26 knows it had the lowest loss rate. But don't take my word for it, look it up yourself. Any B-26 reference will show it. You are confusing losses in combat and losses in training. There is more than one way to die in an airplane. Didn't you read about that in any of your books? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
#70
|
|||
|
|||
"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... It wasn't an opinion. Anybody that knows anything about the Martin B-26 knows it had the lowest loss rate. But don't take my word for it, look it up yourself. Any B-26 reference will show it. You are confusing losses in combat and losses in training. I'm not confusing anything. Obviously you're no expert on the B-26. Why, you're just a wannabe! |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Juan Jiminez is a liar and a fraud (was: Zoom fables on ANN | ChuckSlusarczyk | Home Built | 105 | October 8th 04 12:38 AM |
Bush's guard record | JDKAHN | Home Built | 13 | October 3rd 04 09:38 PM |
George W. Bush Abortion Scandal that should have been | Psalm 110 | Military Aviation | 0 | August 12th 04 09:40 AM |
bush rules! | Be Kind | Military Aviation | 53 | February 14th 04 04:26 PM |