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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. One wonders why it's a question at all. Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship? |
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"Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... Dude wrote: snip Perhaps, but what about the argument that escalating college costs are a direct result of too much government subsidy. Why did he need college, because he didn't get an adequate high school education? Was this due to the effect of the liberalization of public schools? My high school was adequate, but one does not become a Mechanical Engineer without going to college. Many of the engineers I graduated with had some kind of public assistance. Think about this the next time your doctor orders a MRI to diagnose your ailment. It would be pretty tough to do if some of us that actually design and build the things you use everyday weren't motivated by something other than money. All this post points out is that the government has gotten way too involved in our lives without any supporting evidence that we would not be better off without that involvement. We don't know that the author would not have been better off without college. That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items that WE ALL use every day. There may be no supporting argument to say that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there were no government (read general public) intervention. The people that are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work (our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI." |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship? Explain. |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Gene Seibel wrote: Possibly, if I thought it was better. At 53 years old I've pretty well got my mind set on what I think is better. Others may not agree. Doesn't mean they are wrong. With TV, books and internet, there aren't a whole lot of ideas out there that have been kept secret. Most of what I hear is new packaging for old ideas. This has been true for at least 2000 years, at least with respect to things involving people. Technology has advanced dramatically, but people are pretty much the same as they were in Biblical times. Human nature hasn't really changed in a lot longer than 2000 years. |
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"Gig Giacona" wrote in message ... "Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI." Correct, but they DID throw quite a few directives towards the people at Love Canal. |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... That's the problem with abortion, it controls the body of another. The problem with prohibiting abortion is that it controls the body of another. When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. It's not that it (or any other such) question is all that difficult, but that emotions run rampant, and cloud out thought. |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Neither was taxation... sigh. The Constitution does not provide for taxation? |
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Gig Giacona wrote: snip That's not the point. This was, and is, NOT about me! That is a selfish attitude, and one I choose not to take. When will there be a general realization that, for all of it's faults, the government intervention that you so quickly dismiss provides many necessary items that WE ALL use every day. There may be no supporting argument to say that WE are better off, but the opposite is not the case. There are many supporting arguments indicating that WE would be worse off if there were no government (read general public) intervention. The people that are fond of spouting that we "should let the Free Market Economy work (our fearless leader included) seem to forget that we have done this in the past. And it gave rise to things like Love Canal, horrible child labor situations, Company Stores, and Slavery. Please recognize that this government intervention that you speak of is exactly the intervention that brought these and many other horrific "features" of the "Free Market Economy" to an end. snip That same free market is what caused the MRI you are so proud to be invented. The government didn't tell anyone "You MUST build the MRI." You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of modern technology come from? -- Remove "2PLANES" to reply. |
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"Dan Truesdell" wrote in message ... You are correct. So the questions should be: Would we even have an MRI at this time without public schools? Just where would the developers of modern technology come from? Private schools. |
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"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message . net... "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message k.net... When rights conflict, how do you strike a balance? By religious background and beliefs? Whose? By "morals?" Whose? If this were an easy question it would have been resolved long ago. One wonders why it's a question at all. Perhaps because we're a democracy rather than a dictatorship? If that were true abortion would be outlawed. Every poll shows the vast majority of the American public apposes abortion. If that is the case in a democracy, shouldn't the majority rule? |
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