Iran's nuclear program

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"Jarg" wrote in message
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Not a bad idea, they are one of the worst governments left on the
planet!


Except for say Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Israel, and lots of other
US-allied repressive racist tyrannies....


First, I said one of the worst.. Second, the government of Israel,
though not without flaws, is orders of magnitude better than that of
Iran,


Yes, and I am sure the 6 million Palestinians who were driven out of
their homes and refused their rights under the Geneva Convention would
totally agree.

Uh,most of them left voluntarily,under advice from their Grand Mufti.

ISTR that there were not even 6 million original 'refugees' resulting from
the 1948 war.I believe you are counting those born in other countries
afterwards.Rather dishonest,IMO.



demonstrated by the relative freedom and prosperity its citizens
enjoy.

You mean JEWISH citizens. Even Arab citizens of Israel are widely
discriminated against in the JEWISH homeland.

Yeah,what ARAB country allows Jews to be in their legislature?
Israel has two "Palestinian" members in the Knesset.
Arabs in Israel are FAR freer and more prosperous than in any of the
neighboring Arab countries,supposedly their friends and supporters.
They expect Jews to allow them to live in Israel(which Israel does),but
will not let Jews live in Arab countries.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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(Thelasian) wrote in
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"Jarg" wrote in message
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"Thelasian" wrote in message
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Not a bad idea, they are one of the worst governments left on the
planet!


Except for say Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Israel, and lots of other
US-allied repressive racist tyrannies....


First, I said one of the worst.. Second, the government of Israel,
though not without flaws, is orders of magnitude better than that of
Iran,


Yes, and I am sure the 6 million Palestinians who were driven out of
their homes and refused their rights under the Geneva Convention would
totally agree.

Uh,most of them left voluntarily,under advice from their Grand Mufti.

ISTR that there were not even 6 million original 'refugees' resulting from
the 1948 war.I believe you are counting those born in other countries
afterwards.Rather dishonest,IMO.


That number presumably also includes the ones driven out of Jordan
when King Hussein decided he couldnt accept the terrorist attacks
being made by them.

Keith




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On 12 Aug 2004 21:55:25 -0700, (Thelasian) wrote:

Peter Kemp wrote in message . ..
On 11 Aug 2004 20:47:10 -0700, (Thelasian) wrote:

Peter Kemp wrote in message . ..
On 10 Aug 2004 09:22:47 -0700, (Thelasian) wrote:

Don't forget the rest of the Security Council who voted fo rthe
sanctions regime.

Not quite. The "no fly zones" for example were never approved by the
UNSC, and were only enforced by the UK and US. The rest of the UNSC
didn't say or do anything about it though.

Err, the No Fly Zones had bugger all to do with the sanctions, which
*were* approved by the UNSC.



Err, no they were not. The no-fly zones were not approved by the UNSC.

And? I never claimed they were. If you read what I wrote, I said that
the *sanctions* were approved by the UNSC, not unilaterally imposed by
the US as you state.

And whatever the UNSC may or may not have done is no excuse for the
fact that the US quite intentionally armed Saddam and helped him
masscre people, then engaged in the policy of sanctions which resulted
in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children according to
UNICEF, and Madame Albright said it was all worth it.

Peter Kemp

Apparently the Manhatten Project produced no workable designs
and no weapons grade uranium.

Manhatan Project was a colossal blunder,in March 1945 even the termination of
Project was in discussion.A miracle happened in April they produced everything
they needed within the days,the name of miracle was the occupation of Thuringen
Forest.

with a photograph of Fat Man with German markings only he can see never mind
the Nazis produced no plutonium.

Everbody could see that.
Nazis produced no Plutonium?Surely you must be joking.
What they were doing in Klein-Machow?
Actually von Ardenne/Houtermanns team was much ahead of Deibner team.
Houtermanns completed his ground breaking work in August 1941,six months before
Diebner finished his work.
Houtermanns August 1941 report also explains why and how Manhattan Project was
able to produce everything that they failed to produce before April 1944
within weeks in April/May 1945.

"the USAF was responsible for 9/11," teuton's UFOs and Nazi

UFOs?This a term created after WWII by US to hide their origins.
Their creators called them SFOs (SonderFlugObjecten) not UFOs.period.

I've been through all this with him in excruciating detail.
His usual response is that the proof is in documents
so sekrit nobody has ever actually seen them.

You forgat to mention a small detail,the documents are under lock for 75 years
and that is no secret.

Then he retreats into his Hans Kammler did it in Joanastal
fantasy. This involves Nazi UFO's with antigravity engines
armed with nuclear weapons. T

Where is Kammler?

must have been real duffers
to let us mere mortals beat them with nothing more than P-51's, Spitfires,
B-17's and Lancasters

Sometimes mere mortals do not even need P-51s,Spitfires and Lancasters to beat
Superpowers,box cutters might be more than enough to do job.

So you think the CIA attacked Fort Sumter

CIA,NSA etc are only accesories to the crimes committed aganist 80+% of US
population.

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
Apparently the Manhatten Project produced no workable designs
and no weapons grade uranium.

Manhatan Project was a colossal blunder,in March 1945 even the termination
of
Project was in discussion.A miracle happened in April they produced
everything
they needed within the days,the name of miracle was the occupation of
Thuringen
Forest.

with a photograph of Fat Man with German markings only he can see never
mind
the Nazis produced no plutonium.

Everbody could see that.
Nazis produced no Plutonium?Surely you must be joking.
What they were doing in Klein-Machow?
Actually von Ardenne/Houtermanns team was much ahead of Deibner team.
Houtermanns completed his ground breaking work in August 1941,six months
before
Diebner finished his work.
Houtermanns August 1941 report also explains why and how Manhattan Project
was
able to produce everything that they failed to produce before April 1944
within weeks in April/May 1945.

"the USAF was responsible for 9/11," teuton's UFOs and Nazi

UFOs?This a term created after WWII by US to hide their origins.
Their creators called them SFOs (SonderFlugObjecten) not UFOs.period.



I must admit the world you live in is much more interesting than the real
on!

Jarg

I must admit the world you live in is much more interesting than the real
on!

Real World? Do you mean "the official world" or "Victors World" ?

I think 75 years is enough.

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
Apparently the Manhatten Project produced no workable designs
and no weapons grade uranium.

Manhatan Project was a colossal blunder,in March 1945 even the termination
of
Project was in discussion.A miracle happened in April they produced
everything
they needed within the days,the name of miracle was the occupation of
Thuringen
Forest.

with a photograph of Fat Man with German markings only he can see never
mind
the Nazis produced no plutonium.

Everbody could see that.
Nazis produced no Plutonium?Surely you must be joking.
What they were doing in Klein-Machow?
Actually von Ardenne/Houtermanns team was much ahead of Deibner team.
Houtermanns completed his ground breaking work in August 1941,six months
before
Diebner finished his work.

Houtermans was working for the German post office and his work
consisted of writing a report stating a reactor could produce plutonium

This was 2 years AFTER the same conclusion had been reached
in Cambridge. The difference is that the Anglo-American team
were able to build a working reactor and produce plutonium
rather than just talking about it.


Keith

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
I've been through all this with him in excruciating detail.
His usual response is that the proof is in documents
so sekrit nobody has ever actually seen them.

You forgat to mention a small detail,the documents are under lock for 75
years
and that is no secret.

Then he retreats into his Hans Kammler did it in Joanastal
fantasy. This involves Nazi UFO's with antigravity engines
armed with nuclear weapons. T

Where is Kammler?

must have been real duffers
to let us mere mortals beat them with nothing more than P-51's,
Spitfires,
B-17's and Lancasters

Sometimes mere mortals do not even need P-51s,Spitfires and Lancasters to
beat
Superpowers,box cutters might be more than enough to do job.

Dude, box cutters in no way shape or form defeated the USA. It really ****ed
them off and united them, the last two things anyone in their right mind
would want to do. Kick back and take your medicine, it's time....
Regards,
T3