Iran's nuclear program

Dude, box cutters in no way shape or form defeated the USA. It really ****ed
them off and united them.

Excellent,you are proving my point.

9/11 was designed and executed by some US gov.agencies to achieve domestic and
foreign policy goals.
(Similar to Operation Northwoods,Pearl Harbor or Maine)


"..the Process of transformation ..is likely to be a long one,ABSENT some
catastrophic and catalysing event -like a NEW Pearl Harbor".

Rebuilding Americas Defenses,Sept.2000

Houtermans was working for the German post office and his work
consisted of writing a report stating a reactor could produce plutonium

Houtermanns was the associate of von Ardenne.(BTW von Ardenne was the person
who saved from Gestapo)


in Cambridge. The difference is that the Anglo-American team
were able to build a working reactor and produce plutonium
rather than just talking about it.



Houtermanns was pionier in producing Plutonium using Chemical process.
In 1942 they were already producing Plutonium in Klein-Machow whereas
Anglo-American Manhattan Project in March 45 neither produced enough Uran nor
Plutonium and that was the reason why some powerful Congressmen called for its
termination.

Thats one of the the differences between German and Manhattan projects,one by
taking advantage of famous German innovative abilities produced results even
with very limited resources,while the latter stalled in early 1945 inspite of
colossal resources committed to the project.

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
Dude, box cutters in no way shape or form defeated the USA. It really
****ed
them off and united them.

Excellent,you are proving my point.

9/11 was designed and executed by some US gov.agencies to achieve domestic
and
foreign policy goals.
(Similar to Operation Northwoods,Pearl Harbor or Maine)

Get back to us when you have some documentation on this.

Now..I know you will produce many, many links and quotes of nebulous and
shadowy info and falsehoods, none of which actually answer the question.

Please don't. Factual, verifiable info, please.

Pete

On 13 Aug 2004 21:41:05 GMT, (Denyav) wrote:

I've been through all this with him in excruciating detail.
His usual response is that the proof is in documents
so sekrit nobody has ever actually seen them.

You forgat to mention a small detail,the documents are under lock for 75 years
and that is no secret.

So how do you know what's in them if they're locked away and secret?

Can anyone else see the small logical problem here?

Peter Kemp

So how do you know what's in them if they're locked away and secret?

Do what investigative Journalists working for German ZDF TV channel did and and
do a research Jonastal/Kammler, U-235 documents as well as the Journal pages of
89.Infantary division between 4/8/45 1,35PM and 4/11/45 7,35 PM under freedom
of information act.They are all still classified.

From: (Denyav)
Date: 8/13/2004 6:54 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

So how do you know what's in them if they're locked away and secret?

Do what investigative Journalists working for German ZDF TV channel did and
and
do a research Jonastal/Kammler, U-235 documents as well as the Journal pages
of
89.Infantary division between 4/8/45 1,35PM and 4/11/45 7,35 PM under freedom
of information act.They are all still classified.

If they are still classified then neither FOA nor ZDF would have produced
access to them.

As usual, denyav, your claim is illogical.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

From: (Denyav)
Date: 8/13/2004 6:07 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

snip a bunch of garbage



Houtermanns was pionier in producing Plutonium using Chemical process

Ok, plutonium is almost non existant in nature. There is no way to chemically
separate it in sufficient quantities to do much more than measure its
existence. The only way to produce it in quantity is in a fission reactor. Just
where did the Nazis have such a reactor?

snip more garbage

Do you actually believe this stuff you spew?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Just
where did the Nazis have such a reactor?

In Klein-Machow

If they are still classified then neither FOA nor ZDF would have produced
access to them.

Of course,investigative journalists proved some thing very important,namely
documents about Jonastal,U-235,Kammler and infabtry divisions journal entries
do exist but they are all still classified.

Gimme a Break ,you are putting everything under lock for almost one century and
trying to behave as if they do not exist.

Thanks to the works of investigative journalists we all know now that these
documents exists.

You must now find a logical answer why all those documents regarding events
happened within only a couple of days in a sleepy rural region (no cities,no
industry,no universities) of Germany ,or an U-Boot surrendered to US Navy
required to be kept secret for almost one century.

In article , "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:

"Denyav" wrote in message
...
This is so stupid it is difficult to even know where to start so I
won't.


Let me help you,
1861 Ft.Sumter incident (evil Confederates attacked Ft.sumter.Starting
of
Civil
WAr)
1898 Maine incident (Evil Spaniards destroyed USS Maine.US-Spanish war)
1941 Pearl Harbor.(Evil Japs attacked Pearl Harbor and destroyed relics
from
WWI.US enters WWII on Anglo side)
1961 Operation Northwoods.(Evil Cubans supposed to hijack planes and
use
them
as cruise misilles aganist US civilian targets.Public outcry for
revenge
expected to justify the invasion of Cuba.JFK killed Operation
Northwoods
but he
got killed soon after too)
2001 9/11 (Evil Arabs used commercial planes to attack US targets.The
rest is
the history)

If you cannot use Republican Guards to silence the majority like
SH,then
you
must use PSYOPs .


So you think the CIA attacked Fort Sumter

That figures

Keith



Was that the early secret collaboration between governments, the
Carolinas Intelligence Agency?