First-hand video of a BRS deployment.

Scott writes:

OK, now we're getting somewhere. The other computers are not on your
network, either at your home or using the same ISP?

Right.

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Scott writes:

I understand that. But you don't have a range of IP addresses blocked
in which the USAF site might be in do you?

I don't have any ranges blocked.

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That's how I took it.

You claim the USAF shows cowardice. You claim loss of liberties is
attributable to cowardice. Therefore the loss of liberties is
attributable to the USAF.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:


This one I can't answer. How are any loss of liberties atrributable to
cowardice of the USAF as you claim?


That's not what I claimed. The loss of civil liberties is attributable to
cowardice in the population in general.


Maybe you mean the loss of
liberties because of terrorist attacks and the knee jerk reactions that
ensue to "protect lives"?


In part, yes.


With that, I would agree that it is not good
to exchange liberties for security. But, that's just how I feel.


That's how the founders of the country felt, too, as well as a couple of
million people who fought to protect those liberties.

Yes, they FOUGHT, so they weren't cowards.


Cowards would not be in armed conflicts ...


Wise men wouldn't be in armed conflicts, either.

Maybe true, but if an enemy is dumb (un WISE) and comes fighting, can
you supply an example of an alternative to fighting?


... therefore if the French are not
in armed conflicts, they themselves could be called cowards.


So anyone who isn't violent and fighting is a coward?

No, not necessarily. I was just saying that cowards won't fight. Smart
people MIGHT fight if cornered.


Air Force
folks are in armed conflicts, so how would you consider them cowards?


They don't let people visit their Web sites. They must be afraid of
something.

No, it appears they won't let ONE person (you imply many with the word
people -- which is plural for person) see their site. Show me an
example of someone else who can't view their site.


So why do you say the Air Force is cowardly for not letting YOU see
their site?


Because I don't see any other reason for blocking it.
Again, it appears they only have one address blocked and it happens to be yours. Cite references to others who share your problem.

Well, it's a stalemate then. You don't know and I don't know. Crude
form of De tante.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:


What would it be from your region that frightens the Air Force?


I don't know; you tell me.

Well this one has me stumped. Makes no sense. How would they know
which IP addresses are from France alone? It's not like any IP address
that starts with 168 for example is from France.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:


OK, now we're getting somewhere. The other computers are not on your
network, either at your home or using the same ISP?


Right.

Mxsmanic wrote:


Cowards. Like most Americans these days.


Unlike you who is big and tough behind his modem?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Then why do you have a firewall? What does it do for you?



Mxsmanic wrote:

Scott writes:


I understand that. But you don't have a range of IP addresses blocked
in which the USAF site might be in do you?


I don't have any ranges blocked.

Oh crap, you've got another Air Force alumni riled up

Hi Dan!

Scott


Dan wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:


Cowards. Like most Americans these days.


Unlike you who is big and tough behind his modem?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Scott wrote:
Good one. How many French are in any sort of armed conflict (right or
wrong) around the world? I wouldn't consider anyone in the military as
being a coward, U.S. or otherwise. Watch the news sometime...or don't
they offer those channels in France?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Viperdoc writes:


Maybe they know it's you and they blocked your address?


It happens on every other computer I've tried, too.


Are they cowards or smart?


Cowards. Like most Americans these days.


Um, Scott? The French have a long and generally honourable military
history.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I thought the implication was they were smart and wouldn't take up
fighting (which would be evidenced by that military history). Maybe I
misunderstood the Frenchman's posts...

Scott



Dan wrote:

Scott wrote:

Good one. How many French are in any sort of armed conflict (right or
wrong) around the world? I wouldn't consider anyone in the military
as being a coward, U.S. or otherwise. Watch the news sometime...or
don't they offer those channels in France?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Viperdoc writes:


Maybe they know it's you and they blocked your address?



It happens on every other computer I've tried, too.


Are they cowards or smart?



Cowards. Like most Americans these days.


Um, Scott? The French have a long and generally honourable military
history.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired