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Here's evidence why the gov't assholes overreacted.



 
 
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Old May 12th 05, 05:40 AM
R.L.
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Default Here's evidence why the gov't assholes overreacted.

It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. Why on F*g earth would a
pilot on a supposed suicide-bomb mission bother to have his damned
transponder on, much less squawk 1200 while penetrating the ADIZ? Doesn't
make sense.

I believe I heard that the 9/11 hijackers knew enough to turn their
transponders off.



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Old May 12th 05, 06:21 AM
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"R.L." wrote in message
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It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. [...]


That the evidence you come up with?

Come on...surely you can do better than pointing to the transponder. How
about IT WAS A FRIGGIN' CESSNA 150!

Practically everything security-related that followed 9/11 has been an
over-reaction.


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Old May 12th 05, 06:23 AM
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R.L. wrote:
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. Why on F*g earth

would a
pilot on a supposed suicide-bomb mission bother to have his damned
transponder on, much less squawk 1200 while penetrating the ADIZ?

Doesn't
make sense.


Maybe to not call attention to themselves for as long as they can.

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Old May 12th 05, 12:17 PM
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Our government is a mob of cowards, trampling the Constitution in a
stampede to ensure their personal safety... I have to believe that the
original signers of the constitution, most of whom personally led
charges into the smoking muzzles of british guns, would gag on what is
happening today... They would spit on the yellow bellied congressmen
who are allowing this to go on... The frantic flight yesterday of the
people in the Whitehouse and the Congress only validates the beliefs of
those who are willing to die for their cause, that we are weak,
godless, and have surrendered the right to exist...

When a society reaches the point that it is willing to put a 19 year
old kid in a humvee in a foreign country and order him to drive down a
road where he will be shot at, or blown up, while at the same time the
50 year olds who put him in that humvee are fleeing like rabbits
because someone in a spam can Cessna got within ten miles of them, then
it is clear that 'insurgents' have won the war even if the battles
still go on...

I feel sick, I have to stop now...

denny

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Old May 12th 05, 01:07 PM
Ron Natalie
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R.L. wrote:
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. Why on F*g earth would a
pilot on a supposed suicide-bomb mission bother to have his damned
transponder on, much less squawk 1200 while penetrating the ADIZ? Doesn't
make sense.

Either a primary only return (remember the evacutation due to the
birds?) or a 1200 squawk is bad news. I suspect, you'd be better
off squawking 7700 than either of those codes in the ADIZ. There
have been reports of people going to 1200 on the ground at ADIZ
airports triggering investigations.
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Old May 12th 05, 01:34 PM
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even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


On Wed, 11 May 2005 22:21:03 -0700, "Peter Duniho"
wrote:

"R.L." wrote in message
. com...
It's come out that the C150 was squawking VFR. [...]


That the evidence you come up with?

Come on...surely you can do better than pointing to the transponder. How
about IT WAS A FRIGGIN' CESSNA 150!

Practically everything security-related that followed 9/11 has been an
over-reaction.


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Old May 12th 05, 02:00 PM
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usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

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Old May 12th 05, 02:48 PM
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In a previous article, "John T" said:
usedtobe wrote:
even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.


The one in the (nuclear) ALCM, the W-80, is about 300 pounds.


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Old May 12th 05, 02:52 PM
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In article , John T wrote:
usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in "fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.


The 51lb warhead that was used in the Davy Crockett nuclear mortar. It
was an implosion-type plutonium design, with a user-selectable yield of
10 to 250t. It was designed and tested by the US, and 2100 of them were
deployed between 1961 and 1971. The entire Davy Crockett round weighed
76lbs. It was the smallest nuclear weapon manufactured by the United
States, and close to the theoretical smallest size for a nuclear weapon.
Other weapons (artillery shells) of similar (1kt and less) which were
slimmer have been made and tested by the US too.

However, they are all accounted for. I doubt terrorists have had access
to the technology or an actual bomb of this size (otherwise they'd have
used it in lieu of commercial aircraft on Sept. 11th). A 'home made'
terrorist nuke would likely be too large and too heavy to get into
anything smaller than a B727.

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Old May 12th 05, 02:57 PM
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John T wrote:
usedtobe wrote:

even a c150 can carry a small nuclear bomb


What's the lightest known nuclear bomb weigh? "Nuclear" as in

"fission" or
"fusion", not merely "dirty" with radioactive material.

--
John T
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Even a dirty bomb blown up a thousand feet over the capital, would stop
the government for weeks.

 




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