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Old June 6th 07, 12:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Marty Shapiro
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Mxsmanic took his dick out of his mouth and wrote in
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It's just a strip of dirt. That's all it has ever been. You can
still land on it and take off from it, so it's operational. It
doesn't need a tower or terminal or first-class lounge to be a usable
airport.

BULL ****. An "X" on a runway means that the controlling authority
for that runway has closed it. While it might be usable in an emergency,
there is no guarantee that the runway is in any condition to safely land or
take off. The owner of L50, Arizona DOT, has put an "X" on the runway. It
is not an operational airfield any more than a stretch of an interstate
highway or an open field is an operational runway. Even a moron would know
something like that. Your IQ appears to be many orders of magnitude below
that of a moron.

The VFR sectional charts are issued every 6 months. The Grand Canyon
chart is on a "when issued" cycle. Only a stupid buttwipe like you
would believe that just because it's on the unexpired chart its still
there.


It's on both charts.


So what? You don't know **** from shinola when it comes to reading a
sectional. Look at the current Las Vegas sectional published on March 15,
2007 containing data current through January 18, 2007. Tell us what the
"U" inside the magenta circle means.

Hmmm. Let's see. We have no name by the airport, no identifier by
the airport, no frequency listed for the airport, and a "U" inside the
circle. Yet you claim this represents an operational airport there. When
it comes to reading a sectional, you don't know **** from shinola. Did you
even bother to look at the date on the charts you are citing to claim L50
is an operational airport? The GC chart was last published in April, 2001.
L50 was closed in December of 2004. Only in the vacuum between your ears
would the concept of the a 6 year old chart being 100% current exist.

Did you try looking up Tuweep in the A/FD, which is also a federal
government publication, but is updated on 56 day cycle?


Yes, but it's not listed. Of course, many airports are not listed.

The Arizona Department of Transportation used to maintain Tuweep.


What maintenance did a dirt strip require?

You are just diplaying your ignorance again.

Try filing a VFR flight plan to L50 with DUATS. Let us know if it is
accepted.


You can fly VFR without a flight plan.


No one said you couldn't. Only you have enough of a short circuit in
your neural pathways to come up with a non sequitur like this.

Your statements are pure unadulterated bull ****.


In other words, you disagree, which is your prerogative.


No, in plain English: YOU ARE FULL OF ****.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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Old June 6th 07, 01:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
BDS[_2_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote...
Marty Shapiro writes:

Had he bothered, he would have found that the airport was closed in
December, 2004.


It's just a dirt strip. "Open" and "closed" don't have much meaning.


What a strange statement from someone who thinks they would make an
"exceptionally safe" pilot.

BDS


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Old June 6th 07, 02:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jun 6, 8:15 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Marty Shapiro writes:
Had he bothered, he would have found that the airport was closed in
December, 2004.


It's just a dirt strip. "Open" and "closed" don't have much meaning.


Unless the Army has bought the land and is using it as a landmine
testing facility.

-Kees.

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Old June 6th 07, 03:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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You're giving morons a bad name.


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Old June 6th 07, 03:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Since you will be just simulating the landing, you will be OK.


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Old June 6th 07, 03:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Marty Shapiro writes:

Had he bothered, he would have found that the airport was closed in
December, 2004.


It's just a dirt strip. "Open" and "closed" don't have much meaning.


You're just a sim-sot, you have no meaning.


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Old June 6th 07, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bret Berger
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Marty Shapiro wrote:
Mxsmanic took his dick out of his mouth and wrote in
:

It's just a strip of dirt. That's all it has ever been. You can
still land on it and take off from it, so it's operational. It
doesn't need a tower or terminal or first-class lounge to be a usable
airport.

BULL ****. An "X" on a runway means that the controlling authority
for that runway has closed it. While it might be usable in an emergency,
there is no guarantee that the runway is in any condition to safely land or
take off. The owner of L50, Arizona DOT, has put an "X" on the runway. It


I drove the entire length of the runway at Toroweep (Tuweap) a few
months ago in a pickup truck. I didn't see an X. The national park
service ranger stationed about a mile away says that it still gets very
occasional use.
  #78  
Old June 6th 07, 06:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
ManhattanMan
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A Guy Called Tyketto wrote:
Yet another among countless times 'you are wrong' has to be
drilled into your head. Perhaps next time we shouldn't use a
statement, but an actual drill.



Be prepared for the cloud of methane that will be released..


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Old June 6th 07, 07:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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A Guy Called Tyketto writes:

There is a HUGE difference between a strip of dirt, and an
open, Operational field.


There are many strips of dirt that are open and operational fields.
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Old June 6th 07, 07:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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BDS writes:

What a strange statement from someone who thinks they would make an
"exceptionally safe" pilot.


Who are "they" in this context?
 




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