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Old May 7th 13, 06:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wade
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they are letting you borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to the registration is what gets declared to any other devices linked up (Cambridge 302 for example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade
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Old May 7th 13, 10:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dickie Feakes
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

Buy your own copy of See You Mobile!


At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to the

registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up (Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade



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Old May 7th 13, 10:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wojciech Scigala
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

Użytkownik Wade napisał:

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Use ConnectMe.


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WojtuÅ›
  #4  
Old May 7th 13, 03:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Pete Startup[_2_]
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

For the flights that matter? - hand written declaration every time. Would
you trust your diamonds to gadgets?

At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to the

registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up (Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade


  #5  
Old May 7th 13, 04:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Remde
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

Hi Pete,

I don't use written declarations. I've never had a problem in 15 years with
electronic declarations for many badge and record flights. If it is done
correctly it is extremely reliable.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
________________________________

"Pete Startup" wrote in message
...

For the flights that matter? - hand written declaration every time. Would
you trust your diamonds to gadgets?

At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to the

registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up (Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade


  #6  
Old May 7th 13, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they

are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to

the
registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up

(Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I

don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name

from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade


I'm going to stick my neck out and say that your initial premise
that it is the registered SYM name that is sent to the logger with
the declaration is wrong. Copied and pasted from the SYM
manual section on task declaration:

"After the communication is established, the following data is
transferred automatically
to the flight recorder:
Declared task in SeeYou Mobile which you have entered in
Menu Task
Glider information which is entered in Menu Settings Polar
(glider type) and Menu Settings Log
(glider registration)
Pilot name as entered in Menu Settings Log"

So, if the manual is correct, all you should have to do is alter
the pilot details to your own in Menu/Settings/Log for your
badge flight and remember to change them back to the owner's
when you return the PDA.

John Galloway

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Old May 7th 13, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Galloway[_1_]
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

At 16:20 07 May 2013, John Galloway wrote:
At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they

are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to

the
registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up

(Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I

don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name

from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade

My previous posting got truncated as it crossed the Atlantic so
here is the complete version.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that your initial premise
that it is the registered SYM name that is sent to the logger with
the declaration is wrong. Copied and pasted from the SYM
manual section on task declaration:


"After the communication is established, the following data is
transfered automatically
to the flight recorder:

Declared task in SeeYou Mobile which you have entered in
Menu/Task

Glider information which is entered in Menu/Settings/Polar
(glider type) and Menu/Settings/Log (glider registration)

Pilot name as entered in Menu Settings Log"

So all you should need to do is enter your own information as
described before declaring the task and remember to change it
back to the owner's before returning the PDA to him.

John Galloway



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Old May 8th 13, 03:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
GC[_2_]
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

On 8/05/2013 01:48, Paul Remde wrote:
Hi Pete,

I don't use written declarations. I've never had a problem in 15 years
with electronic declarations for many badge and record flights. If it
is done correctly it is extremely reliable.


But how reliable is it if NOT 'done correctly'? How easy is it to know
it's been 'done correctly' electronically compared to a written
declaration?. Written ones are inherently 'extremely reliable' for
those of us who aren't software gurus.

If software was reliable, straightforward and predictable, the number of
posts on r.a.s. would be halved.

GC



Best Regards,

Paul Remde
________________________________

"Pete Startup" wrote in message
...

For the flights that matter? - hand written declaration every time. Would
you trust your diamonds to gadgets?

At 05:58 07 May 2013, Wade wrote:
If see you mobile was registered to someone else and they are letting you
borrow their PDA for a badge flight, the name attached to the

registration
is what gets declared to any other devices linked up (Cambridge 302 for
example).

I can enter a separate pilot in the Cambridge 302/303 but I don't want a
task declared through to the 302/303 with a different name from see you
mobile. Does anyone know a good solution to this one?

Thanks
Wade



  #9  
Old May 8th 13, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Roy Clark, \B6\
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:09:54 PM UTC-7, GC wrote:
But how reliable is it if NOT 'done correctly'? How easy is it to know

it's been 'done correctly' electronically compared to a written

declaration?. Written ones are inherently 'extremely reliable' for

those of us who aren't software gurus.


If software was reliable, straightforward and predictable, the number of

posts on r.a.s. would be halved.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On June 16, 2004, this happened to me - only time since 1996.

I was not aware of any problem until my OO opened the trace.

Then, learned:

Declaration is NOT VALID!
Task: Triangle - (305.9km)
Task distance: 305.9km

Points:
1) Ephrata
2) Waterville
3) Davenport
4) Ephrata

All reached turn points rounded ok. Task Completed.
Distance: 305.9km, Duration: 04:16:53, Speed: 38.55kts

Sent to The Badge Lady anyway.
She asked if OO had verified a written declaration before take-off.
If done, Badge leg done ok; if not, sorry.

Flew for fun on June 20 and 21, then flew another 300+km triangle on the 22nd.

Oh, yeah, did a verified written declaration before that flight – and every Badge leg fight attempt since, including my next ones.







  #10  
Old May 9th 13, 04:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Remde
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Default See You Mobile Declared Task Pilot Name

Hi Roy,

Did you do the failed electronic task declaration before or after take-off?

Paul
_________________________

"Roy Clark, "B6"" wrote in message
...

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 7:09:54 PM UTC-7, GC wrote:
But how reliable is it if NOT 'done correctly'? How easy is it to know

it's been 'done correctly' electronically compared to a written

declaration?. Written ones are inherently 'extremely reliable' for

those of us who aren't software gurus.


If software was reliable, straightforward and predictable, the number of

posts on r.a.s. would be halved.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

On June 16, 2004, this happened to me - only time since 1996.

I was not aware of any problem until my OO opened the trace.

Then, learned:

Declaration is NOT VALID!
Task: Triangle - (305.9km)
Task distance: 305.9km

Points:
1) Ephrata
2) Waterville
3) Davenport
4) Ephrata

All reached turn points rounded ok. Task Completed.
Distance: 305.9km, Duration: 04:16:53, Speed: 38.55kts

Sent to The Badge Lady anyway.
She asked if OO had verified a written declaration before take-off.
If done, Badge leg done ok; if not, sorry.

Flew for fun on June 20 and 21, then flew another 300+km triangle on the
22nd.

Oh, yeah, did a verified written declaration before that flight – and every
Badge leg fight attempt since, including my next ones.






 




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