Pirker Final Glide Theory

Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even locate one in German via Google.

I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in 2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate to this.

http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm

Thanks,

John Galloway

Try this link
http://www.streckenflug.at/popup.php...tacho.pdf&xy=J

the text is in German

PF

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC+11, PapaFox wrote:
Try this link

http://www.streckenflug.at/popup.php...tacho.pdf&xy=J



the text is in German



PF
I don't speak german, but that appears to be a paper about speed to fly.
try these?
http://libelle.bugwiper.com/ea_gr1000.ppt
http://www.streckenflug.at/download/...windigkeit.pdf

from the xcsoar user archive

On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:16:45 AM UTC, wrote:
On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:40:45 AM UTC+11, PapaFox wrote:

Try this link



http://www.streckenflug.at/popup.php...tacho.pdf&xy=J







the text is in German







PF

I don't speak german, but that appears to be a paper about speed to fly.

try these?

http://libelle.bugwiper.com/ea_gr1000.ppt

http://www.streckenflug.at/download/...windigkeit.pdf



from the xcsoar user archive

Thanks to both responders but these articles refer to Herr Pirker's suggestions for estimating instantaneous cross country speed according to the calculated movement of the glider's shadow over the ground during climb and glide.

( See: http://www.glidingmagazine.com/Featu...cle.asp?id=424 )

For the interest of LX 8/9000 users, the "Req.Mc" and "STFReq" navboxes are calculated according to Pirker's (other)glide theory.

John Galloway

On Monday, January 14, 2013 10:19:27 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even locate one in German via Google.



I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in 2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate to this.



http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm



Thanks,



John Galloway

AeroKurier had an article about eight years ago. I believe the title, translated in English, was something like: A New Computation for Final Glide. There is really nothing in English regarding Dr Pirker's theory, I know because I have exhausted every lead. Best get the AeroKurier article and have a friend translate it for you. Good luck,
John Iacobucci

On Monday, 28 January 2013 03:25:06 UTC, wrote:
On Monday, January 14, 2013 10:19:27 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even locate one in German via Google.







I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in 2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate to this.







http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm







Thanks,







John Galloway



AeroKurier had an article about eight years ago. I believe the title, translated in English, was something like: A New Computation for Final Glide.. There is really nothing in English regarding Dr Pirker's theory, I know because I have exhausted every lead. Best get the AeroKurier article and have a friend translate it for you. Good luck,

John Iacobucci

Thanks John I will try that.

LX NAV (who have a couple of Navboxes related to this on the LX 8000/9000) say that they do not know of an English article but they are in contact with Herr Pirker about the possibility of expanding the calculations to include glides around one or more way points.

I had wondered if John Cochrane might know something about it as Herr Pirker's calculations use MC settings as the primary glide slope consideration, similar to John's recent article - but with TAS factored into the calculations.

John Galloway

On Monday, January 14, 2013 10:19:27 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even locate one in German via Google.



I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in 2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate to this.



http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm



Thanks,



John Galloway

John: I've been looking through my stacks and finally found an english translation as well as the artilcle from aerokurier. I'll get around to scanning in PDF formats and email these articles to you.

On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:45:12 -0800 (PST), wrote:


John: I've been looking through my stacks and finally found an english translation as well as the artilcle from aerokurier. I'll get around to scanning in PDF formats and email these articles to you.

If you don't mind, I'd also like to have it. Would it be possible?

Thank you!
best regards

aldo cernezzi

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:45:12 PM UTC, wrote:
On Monday, January 14, 2013 10:19:27 AM UTC-5, wrote:

Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even locate one in German via Google.







I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in 2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate to this.







http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm







Thanks,







John Galloway



John: I've been looking through my stacks and finally found an english translation as well as the artilcle from aerokurier. I'll get around to scanning in PDF formats and email these articles to you.

Excellent. Many thanks. I appreciate your help.

John Galloway

Hi,

I think we'd all love to have access to the document. I'd be glad to post
it on my web site if that would help.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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On Monday, January 14, 2013 10:19:27 AM UTC-5, wrote:
Does anyone have a link to, or a copy of, an English language paper or
explanation about Dr Herbert Pirker's final glide theory? I can't even
locate one in German via Google.



I can find snippets about it relating to implementation on StrePla in
2006vand I understand that a couple of the NavBoxes on LX 8000/9000 relate
to this.



http://www.strepla.de/StrePla4/engli...t_Winter05.htm



Thanks,



John Galloway

John: I've been looking through my stacks and finally found an english
translation as well as the artilcle from aerokurier. I'll get around to
scanning in PDF formats and email these articles to you.