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Old January 6th 04, 07:46 PM
Homer J. Simpson
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I was just at the sportys website looking for one of those mini red LED
lights. One of the sidebars claims that,

"These keychain flashlights emit a bright red beam or a bright white beam that illuminates well,


yet does not affect night vision."



I've been taught that white light destroys your night vision. Is this
claim true?

Joe

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Old January 6th 04, 07:59 PM
Bob Gardner
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AIM 8-1-6(b) contains information more recent than what you were taught.

Bob Gardner

"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message
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I was just at the sportys website looking for one of those mini red LED
lights. One of the sidebars claims that,

"These keychain flashlights emit a bright red beam or a bright white

beam that illuminates well,

yet does not affect night vision."



I've been taught that white light destroys your night vision. Is this
claim true?

Joe



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Old January 7th 04, 02:06 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Bob,

while we're at it, maybe a question from a friend: Consider a flight in
night IMC. Why would there be any desire to keep the night vision good?
There's nothing to see outside anyway, except for bright runway lights.
Why not make the cockpit as bright as possible?

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Old January 8th 04, 04:17 AM
Teacherjh
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Consider a flight in
night IMC. Why would there be any
desire to keep the night vision good?
There's nothing to see outside anyway


Until you break out unexpectedly. There's aluminum out there and it's not
separated from you once you are out of the soup. Without good night vision you
might not even notice you're now in 5 miles in haze over a layer.

Jose

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Old January 8th 04, 11:04 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Teacherjh,

Thanks, that's what I said, too: You'll still need to visually scan for
traffic if it's anywhere near marginal VMC. And that's often the case.

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Old January 6th 04, 08:00 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message ...

I've been taught that white light destroys your night vision. Is this
claim true?


The major issue is INTENSITY. Keeping the light intensity down is
the key. While given the same intensity, red will hinder your night
vision less, you actually may bet away with dimmer illumination using
another color.

I actually find very dim white light to work fine. The back lighting on my
Garmin 195 actually makes a quite suitable light to read the charts by.

The military went with green because it interferes with their night vision
hardware less, but some research points out your acuity is better with
green light, meaning you can set it dimmer than you could with a red
light.

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Old January 7th 04, 12:06 AM
Dean Wilkinson
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This is a good answer Ron..

Your eyes operate in the photopic mode in daylight (cone vision) and
scotopic mode for night vision (rod vision). Your cones provide color
vision and your rods provide monochrome vision. The peak sensitivity
of photopic vision is right around 555nm (green), but scotopic vision
has its peak sensitivity at around 580nm (yellow).

The important thing is that the light level you use is low enough to
avoid desensitizing your retina to dim exterior light in the real
world. Exposure to light at too great of an intensity will consume
rhodopsin and spoil your night vision. It can take up to 1/2 hour to
become completely dark adapted. Since you rely primarily on your rods
at night, red light does not hold any particular advantage because it
affects your rods. In actuality, blue light might be a better choice
because it will primarily excite your blue cones without affecting
your rods as much...

Another thing to keep in mind at night is the importance of using
averted vision. Because your cones are concentrated in your fovea
(center of vision) and you have very few rods there, you can't see dim
objects if you look directly at them. Looking slightly away from them
will take advantage of the higher rod density away from your fovea and
allow you to see dim objects. You can try this by looking at dim
stars in the night sky and you will see what I mean.

Dean Wilkinson


"Ron Natalie" wrote in message om...
"Homer J. Simpson" wrote in message ...

I've been taught that white light destroys your night vision. Is this
claim true?


The major issue is INTENSITY. Keeping the light intensity down is
the key. While given the same intensity, red will hinder your night
vision less, you actually may bet away with dimmer illumination using
another color.

I actually find very dim white light to work fine. The back lighting on my
Garmin 195 actually makes a quite suitable light to read the charts by.

The military went with green because it interferes with their night vision
hardware less, but some research points out your acuity is better with
green light, meaning you can set it dimmer than you could with a red
light.

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Old January 7th 04, 12:49 AM
Don Tuite
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What does taxiing with a landing light do to night vision? What about
flying over a city?

Don
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Old January 7th 04, 02:50 PM
Newps
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Don Tuite wrote:

What does taxiing with a landing light do to night vision?


Nothing.

What about
flying over a city?


Nothing.


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Old January 7th 04, 04:22 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Newps" wrote in message news:S0VKb.767486$Tr4.2204802@attbi_s03...


Don Tuite wrote:

What does taxiing with a landing light do to night vision?


Nothing.

Doesn't do anything for your night vision, but when you blast the
other plane on the taxiway with your light it destroys his!

About the only other outside-the-cockpit light that was problematic
was when the tower turns up the Dulles runway lights into the
penetrate the fog mode on a clear dark night. The normal illumination
level is actually less than the lighting on the airport service road.
 




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