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On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:
Matt Whiting wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122 @news1.epix.net: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: C J Campbell wrote in news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is anti-war extremists. People who are anti war are extremeists? That isn't even close to what he wrote. I cut and paste it... So it's exactly what he wrote. Bertie He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge difference. Has he no tongue? Bertie Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet. We have been traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low priority. I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I said that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who support the war are extremists. Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for me in the coming election. I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business. The party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for example. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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On 2007-10-20 18:42:02 -0600, "NW_Pilot"
said: "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:16:21 -0700, "NW_Pilot" wrote in : I am about ready to start walking across the border to get back in because would be way simpler. I'm sorry for the abuse you are suffering at the hands of government minions, but it is ironic that you could probably easily cross the border on foot! Not only that, I recently heard that Bush signed an agreement with our two bordering neighbors to form some sort of trading consortium similar to the EU and "eliminate" the borders between the US and them! I haven't researched that yet. Yea, it's called the North American Union the currency will be the amero just do a google search on The Amero you will find all sorts of info. Off i go to the land up north again then on to the EU in another 172 then a diesel 182 to eastern africa. hope to be home by Cousumer Day! The first place you might want to check for information on the "Amero" is on Snopes. The "Amero" has been around for years as a fake currency that appeals to coin collectors. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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On 2007-10-20 18:52:13 -0600, "NW_Pilot"
said: "C J Campbell" wrote in message news:2007101819243227544-christophercampbell@hotmailcom... On 2007-10-18 14:16:21 -0700, "NW_Pilot" said: I Don't blame the guy that guy for going mad! US Customs or Department Of Homeland (un)Security held me on 10/14 at that same airport promised to help me get another flight if they detained me to long and missed my flight, after I missed my flight almost 2 hours isolated I knew it was going to be a long day answering dumb questions. Asked for some water after two and a half hours of sitting I belive the customs agent tried to gave me toilet water. Sounds like you need a lawyer. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor No I did not drink the water! The Gestapo usually give me sealed bottled water or poor coffee out of a pot???? All this was beacuse from my Lebanon trip. They keep telling me they don't have to let me back in to the U.S. the country I was born! They are lying. They not only have to let you back into the country, they cannot hold you against your will. You possibly have a civil suit for conspiracy to deprive you of your civil rights, but I would also look at pressing criminal charges against the individuals involved. Conspiracy, kidnapping, false arrest, and some other possible crimes come to mind. They are not afraid that you will sue, because the government pays the settlements. But the government will not serve their prison terms for them. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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On 2007-10-20 17:09:56 -0600, "Dan Luke" said:
"Montblack" wrote: I see no difference between hitting the beaches at Normandy and hitting the switch for the electric chair - both are necessary in combating ...."evil-doers". I've never believed that capital punishment is the ultimate crime deterrent. (Never mind the fact that it's for poor folks; rich murderers can lawyer their way out of it.) Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced. It may not be the ultimate crime deterrent, but there is a question of justice. If life in prison is actually worse than capital punishment, then it is worse than the crime committed and therefore unjust. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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C J Campbell wrote in
news:2007102118540175249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said: Matt Whiting wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122 @news1.epix.net: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: C J Campbell wrote in news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is anti-war extremists. People who are anti war are extremeists? That isn't even close to what he wrote. I cut and paste it... So it's exactly what he wrote. Bertie He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge difference. Has he no tongue? Bertie Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet. I have only your word for that, of course. We have been traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low priority. M, kay. I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I said that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who support the war are extremists. Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for me in the coming election. I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business. Ya think? The party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for example. Good for you. And here I was thinking you were all on the back side of the bell curve. Well, ya's did vote for bush,. can you blame me? Bertie |
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Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a
tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons. This is a comfort? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On 2007-10-21 19:34:52 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:
C J Campbell wrote in news:2007102118540175249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said: Matt Whiting wrote in : Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122 @news1.epix.net: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: C J Campbell wrote in news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom: The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is anti-war extremists. People who are anti war are extremeists? That isn't even close to what he wrote. I cut and paste it... So it's exactly what he wrote. Bertie He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge difference. Has he no tongue? Bertie Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet. I have only your word for that, of course. We have been traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low priority. M, kay. I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I said that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who support the war are extremists. Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for me in the coming election. I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business. Ya think? You really have to consider how much it would take to alienate Alan Greenspan, but they managed it. The party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for example. Good for you. And here I was thinking you were all on the back side of the bell curve. Well, ya's did vote for bush,. can you blame me? Yeah, I can as a matter of fact. My views should be well known by now. Too many people want to pigeonhole people such as me with the Religious Right, forgetting that the Religious Right historically has tried to exterminate Mormons and shows every sign of being willing to try it again. Mitt Romney might be a Mormon, but so is Harry Reid. Who is to say which one better represents our values? The trouble is, the Democrats are misreading the whole thing and reverting to form. They think that disaffection with the Republicans means an acceptance of traditional Democratic values: pro-labor, big government, high taxes, etc., plus the Democrats have their own lunatic fringe with its own special social interests. If they think they are going to pick up a lot of disaffected Republicans with an anti-business agenda while remaining soft on crime and foreign policy they are grossly mistaken. Plus, business people do not trust the rampant corruption in the Democratic party and the absolute refusal of the party to police its own people. One might support libertarianism, but the Libertarian party is anything but libertarian. Besides, the libertarians that remain among the Republicans are too often gold bugs who cannot admit that Ayn Rand might have been wrong about a few things -- gold, for example. So, I do not see anyone being particularly pro-business right now. Every candidate seems hung up either on the war in Iraq or on abortion or building a fence on the border, none of which is critical to financial growth. Every one of them has expressed trade protectionist views which range from disturbing to downright alarming. Whatever happened to "Free trade and free men!" which was the historical battle cry of the GOP? Who carries that banner today? -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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Y'know, Chris, I suspect there are dozens of important things we
disagree on, but, over and over on this forum, you inevitably earn my respect., Don |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
C J Campbell" wrote: Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons. This is a comfort? I presume he merely meant that Mormonism clearly originated within the geographic and temporal boundaries of the political entity known as the USA. (Sorry for the fancy way of saying that.) By that definition Scientology is just as "American". |
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C J Campbell wrote:
One might support libertarianism, but the Libertarian party is anything but libertarian. What, the aliens got to them too!? "Well that's great, that's just ****in' great man. Now what the **** are we supposed to do? We're in some real pretty **** now man... That's it man, game over man, game over! What the **** are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?" Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Hudson: ****ing A! Burke: Hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it. Ripley: They can bill me. Burke: Okay, look. This is an emotional moment for all of us, okay? I know that. But let's not make snap judgments, please. This is clearly, clearly an important species we're dealing with and I don't think you or I or anybody has the right to arbitrarily exterminate them. Ripley: Wrong. Vasquez:Yeah. Watch us. Hudson: Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal! So, I do not see anyone being particularly pro-business right now. I prefer pro-free-enterprise over pro-business. Already had plenty of pro- big-business politicos in DC and freedom was getting its ass kicked. Every candidate seems hung up either on the war in Iraq or on abortion or building a fence on the border, none of which is critical to financial growth. Every one of them has expressed trade protectionist views which range from disturbing to downright alarming. Whatever happened to "Free trade and free men!" which was the historical battle cry of the GOP? Who carries that banner today? Beats me. According to you the powerless party I've been throwing away my vote on also isn't what I thought it was. |
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