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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:
[...] ...and then we remembered the season, and where we were. It HAD to be a presidential election-related visit of some sort -- but who? [...] This left the Kerry/Edwards campaign as the primary suspects, and we were not to be disappointed. As soon as we were inside the FBO, the Kerry/Edwards "Real Deal" Boeing 727 plane rolled in. John Edwards was making an appearance in Des Moines, and we were lucky to get in when we did -- cuz the ramp was slammed shut, tight as a drum, as soon as he arrived. [...] [...] the V.P.-wannabee [...] while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727 [...] for Mr. Perfect-Hair. [...] Finally Mr. Ketchup's side-kick taxied out [...] [...] [...] Worse, Edwards isn't even THERE yet -- he's just a wannabee! He is nothing, absolutely NOTHING -- yet we are treating him like royalty, and my family was treated like criminals when we were anywhere near him. hmmm. you found the nicest words ... If this is what we have to look forward to under a Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come. what happens with the current administration? what have you wished? a TFR for Edwards? in 'days like these' this was the best that could happen to you as a pilot. As we climbed out I laughingly told my kids that this was "your tax-dollars at work." I then closed my eyes and wished fervently that 9/11 had never happened... [...] I think that this also happened before 9/11. #m -- The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil, the less one is tempted to place the Good in question. (J.P. Sartre) |
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G. Burkhart wrote:
Welcome to Iowa... Every 4 years Iowa gets pounded by political candidates starting the fall/winter before the election up until the Caucuses, then it's back to 'normal' for a few months then gets pounded again until the first Monday of November. Then, 3 years of silence! (Iowa? Where's that?) DARN!!! And my family may be moving to DSM in a year of two. |
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Now you must realize that my plane was MAYBE 40 feet from the door he was
blocking, while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727 was several hundred yards farther out. I pointed this fact out to him, and also pointed to my children, stating that all we wanted to do was get off the ground before dark, since neither of us were legal to fly at night. A bit off topic (and I don't want to diminish your point), but I just want to make sure I understand the regulations... Couldn't you or Mary just do three quick patterns (full-stop) and be legal to fly at night? Adam |
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This is all the work of the Secret Service. It wouldn't matter who the
politician du jour was. Don't blame their over-reaction on Kerry-Edwards or Bush-Cheney. If the SS decided that the water commissioner needed protection, you would have received the same treatment. Bob Gardner "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news91Wc.21556$9d6.17529@attbi_s54... After living in Iowa for the last 7 years, it seemed that we were the only ones left who had NOT been to the "Great Iowa State Fair." This year is the 150th anniversary of this grand old tradition, so last weekend we decided to check it out. After the brief, 0.7 hour flight to Des Moines, Mary taxied up to Des Moines Flying Service (A.K.A.: "Signature") to park. As we trundled toward the ramp we noticed an inordinate number of vehicles parked on the airport side of the fence. As the prop stopped, I noticed that they were all law enforcement vehicles, of every type and kind, from marked squads to black Suburbans. Jokingly I commented on the criminal nature of that last landing (which netted me a swat to the head :-), but wondered aloud just what the heck could justify the expense of 30 - 40 vehicles and crew... ...and then we remembered the season, and where we were. It HAD to be a presidential election-related visit of some sort -- but who? Mary had quite specifically grilled Flight Service about TFRs, and had been told there were none. DSM approach mentioned nothing, either, so we were fairly certain that it couldn't be the President. The fact that the cops were eying us warily, but otherwise ignoring us, seemed to reinforce this notion. This left the Kerry/Edwards campaign as the primary suspects, and we were not to be disappointed. As soon as we were inside the FBO, the Kerry/Edwards "Real Deal" Boeing 727 plane rolled in. John Edwards was making an appearance in Des Moines, and we were lucky to get in when we did -- cuz the ramp was slammed shut, tight as a drum, as soon as he arrived. Walking to our rental car with my kids, I pushed up closer to the fence to take a picture. Immediately a uniformed DSM police officer asked if he could "help me" -- and ordered me to stay behind a painted line in the parking lot (that he had chosen entirely at random, at that instant) in no uncertain terms. So, I took my pictures and left, marveling at the stupidity of it all. After spending a marvelous day at the fair we returned to the airport -- and were dumb-founded to see all those police officers rolling up to the ramp once again! With incredibly bad timing, we had arrived precisely at the same moment as the advance security detail, meaning that Edwards couldn't be far behind. Now hurriedly paying for gas and the car, hoping against hope to get off the ground before the V.P.-wannabee returned to his plane, we grabbed our stuff and made a bee-line toward the plane -- only to have a secret service agent step between me and the door, asking that I please wait for Mr. Edwards to depart. Now you must realize that my plane was MAYBE 40 feet from the door he was blocking, while Mr. Liability-Attorney's 727 was several hundred yards farther out. I pointed this fact out to him, and also pointed to my children, stating that all we wanted to do was get off the ground before dark, since neither of us were legal to fly at night. This carried no weight with him, and he quietly told me that we'd just have to wait. So, I resignedly told my family to find comfy chairs, and that it would be while. For the next ten minutes or so, we observed at least 50 officers and agents, all on the tax-dole, making sure that the ramp area was "sterile" for Mr. Perfect-Hair. Some were just standing around staring into space, while others were actively scanning the fence line and building tops. Aggravatingly, two characters -- obviously pilots -- kept freely going in and out of the same door that the jar-head secret agent had blocked. This continued for 15 minutes, until I could no longer stand it. I approached the door guard and asked him what THEY had that we did NOT have -- to which he replied succinctly: "Clearance." Apparently they worked for Signature, and had been pre-screened to be on the ramp. By now thoroughly aggravated, I raised my hands over my head and said "Well, screen me. Escort me. Tow me. Do whatever you've got to do to make sure I'm not a threat -- but we've got to get off the ground soon, or we'll be stuck here overnight!" Unsmilingly, he simply said "You're not going anywhere until that plane departs." -- and that was that. Finally Mr. Ketchup's side-kick taxied out to the active runway -- and held for departure. We all immediately grabbed our stuff and started heading for the door -- which our favorite S.S. officer was STILL blocking! Dumbfounded, I asked what the problem was -- and he said that Edwards had to be OFF THE GROUND before he could clear us onto the ramp! Now thoroughly ****ed, I just stared at the guy incredulously. He got the message, and promised that he would try to "get us clearance onto the ramp" -- and started talking into his lapel. He then walked out onto the ramp, where he was animatedly talking with someone when Edwards' plane finally got clearance to depart, and blasted into the evening sky. Within minutes, the Signature ramp was empty, with no vestige of the incredible security presence that had been there only moments before. They all headed to the donut shoppe, and we were able to depart normally, as if nothing at all had just happened. Harry Truman once famously said that the "position of vice-president ain't worth a bucket of warm spit." Worse, Edwards isn't even THERE yet -- he's just a wannabee! He is nothing, absolutely NOTHING -- yet we are treating him like royalty, and my family was treated like criminals when we were anywhere near him. If this is what we have to look forward to under a Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come. As we climbed out I laughingly told my kids that this was "your tax-dollars at work." I then closed my eyes and wished fervently that 9/11 had never happened... (BTW: If you've never seen the Iowa State Fair, it's worth the trip. It's the biggest fair in America, apparently, and it is so chock-full of traditional Americana that I felt like a kid again. And my kids were absolutely in awe of the place, with the rides, live entertainment, food, and animals. Ever seen a 3000 pound bull? Me neither -- but they have one. It's as big as a car!) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:57:28 -0400, John Gaquin wrote:
and my family was treated like criminals when we were anywhere near him. Bit of a stretch, don't you think? I can offer a first hand story of 2 scientists [1] (foreigners) near N.Y. searching for the limo service to JFK after they attended a memorial service and where held by about 10 officers of all sort (state police, FBI, campus (?) police) for about 3 hours. The only thing they did was driving slowly around the same block twice. All of them had absolutely NO clue, no brain and almost no education (else they would have found out within 5 minutes what was going on and would have offered their help). [1] I heard it from one of the two yesterday; and I know him all my life; there is absolutely NO cause to believe that only one word is put to the story to make it up. #m, rather dissapointed -- The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil, the less one is tempted to place the Good in question. (J.P. Sartre) |
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"Bob Gardner" wrote in message
... This is all the work of the Secret Service. It wouldn't matter who the politician du jour was. Don't blame their over-reaction on Kerry-Edwards or Bush-Cheney. If the SS decided that the water commissioner needed protection, you would have received the same treatment. You mean _candidate_ for water commissioner, not the actual water commissioner. Right now, Edwards is just another poobah wanabee. Apart from the fact that there is a considerable amount of money backing his candidacy, he is no more deserving of protection than (say) the Libertarian VP candidate (or for that matter Jay himself). |
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"You're driving in a car, what do you need a limo for?'
"Martin Hotze" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 12:57:28 -0400, John Gaquin wrote: and my family was treated like criminals when we were anywhere near him. Bit of a stretch, don't you think? I can offer a first hand story of 2 scientists [1] (foreigners) near N.Y. searching for the limo service to JFK after they attended a memorial service and where held by about 10 officers of all sort (state police, FBI, campus (?) police) for about 3 hours. The only thing they did was driving slowly around the same block twice. All of them had absolutely NO clue, no brain and almost no education (else they would have found out within 5 minutes what was going on and would have offered their help). [1] I heard it from one of the two yesterday; and I know him all my life; there is absolutely NO cause to believe that only one word is put to the story to make it up. #m, rather dissapointed -- The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil, the less one is tempted to place the Good in question. (J.P. Sartre) |
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:00:15 -0500, Bill Denton wrote:
"You're driving in a car, what do you need a limo for?' the other one (a permanent resident) dropping off the other one at the limo station for JFK (and then flying back home to Europe)? #m -- The more one is absorbed in fighting Evil, the less one is tempted to place the Good in question. (J.P. Sartre) |
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... Welcome to the 21st century! Robert Heinline predicted this and much more in the settings of his novels. On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:25:41 GMT, "Jay Honeck" wrote in p91Wc.21556$9d6.17529@attbi_s54:: If this is what we have to look forward to under a Kerry/Edwards presidency, I fear the worst is yet to come. I believe it is what occurred during Dubuah's reign. But I share your confidence that the Kerry presidency is assured. I sincerely hope not. They should have shot the lying, treasonous war criminal a long time ago. He betrayed his country, he betrayed everyone who served in Vietnam, he met with enemy leaders, he deliberately killed babies and then justified by claiming in Congressional testimony that everyone else was doing it, he left his one of his own men for dead while fleeing from an imaginary attack and only turned around when shamed into it, two of his Purple Hearts are for self inflicted wounds, he disgraced the medals that he is now so proud of, and he plotted to kill United States senators. He does not deny any of this; instead he resorts to personal attacks against those who are exposing the truth about him. If personal attacks do not silence his enemies, he resorts to threats of violence and lawsuits, which shows what he thinks of freedom of speech. It speaks volumes about the Democrats that they have sunk so low as to put such a slimeball up for the Presidency. The Democratic Party no longer respects America or Americans, but is solely focused on using fraud and deceit to achieve power in any way that it can. If this behavior continues the only outcome can be civil war. |
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Jay, weren't you the one who said your life had not changed because of 9/11
paranoia? |
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