Al Gore's Private Jet

"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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Umm.. Al flies commercial when he can, and when he can't,
charters jets and offsets the use of those by buying carbon credits.
Info for that is at his blog and at
http://digg.com/politics/Al_Gore_s_Inconvenient_Truth .


Who does he buy the carbon credits from?

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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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Umm.. Al flies commercial when he can, and when he can't,
charters jets and offsets the use of those by buying carbon credits.
Info for that is at his blog and at
http://digg.com/politics/Al_Gore_s_Inconvenient_Truth .


Who does he buy the carbon credits from?

TerraPass. http://www.terrapass.com .

BL.
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Apr 5, 8:08 am, "ve5jl" wrote:
Does anyone know the tail number of or have pictures of Al Gore's private
jet?

I've looked on a few major airplane photo sites with no luck.

Thanks in advance

VE5JL.

Gee I wonder how much "global warming" gases he would save if he used
an empty airline seat instead. Probably one of the reasons he refused
to take the pledge to not produce more green house gases than the
average American. This guy has found a profitible industry in global
warming and is milking it for all he can get out of it.

-Robert

I would have thought the same as you 2 years ago, then really
thought about it and how it is theoretically possible. Then, I found
this:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/2/21/113953/985

This and other things have seriously changed my mind about it.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind; that isn't my call. But
you have to admit: Gen. Aviation isn't really helping the cause. We're
flying around planes that can seat no more than 3 - 5 people, and
adding CO2 to the air just as much as those driving... Yet you're only
roasting Gore. We should look at ourselves first before going after
someone else..

BL.
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"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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TerraPass. http://www.terrapass.com .


That's quite a scam. How much of TerraPass does Gore own?

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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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TerraPass. http://www.terrapass.com .


That's quite a scam. How much of TerraPass does Gore own?

Good question. I don't know, but if they're partnered up with
Expedia, DriveNeutral, and look pretty well self solvent.
Treehugger.com has a lot of info about them.

Also, Expedia is selling carbon offsets as well.

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"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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Good question. I don't know, but if they're partnered up with
Expedia, DriveNeutral, and look pretty well self solvent.
Treehugger.com has a lot of info about them.

Also, Expedia is selling carbon offsets as well.


I think I'll start selling them too.

On Apr 5, 12:20 pm, Ross wrote:

Check this out on Gore http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

Nice Snopes article about the Gore's 10,000 sqft house and the 4000
sqft house at the Bush's Crawford "ranch", with the ground-water heat
pump system (very nifty indeed if you can sink a reasonable-depth well
next to your house... I'm jealous).

Question, though. Do you really think the President, the First Lady,
the President's security detail, the First Lady's security detail, the
President's staff, the First Lady's staff, *and* Barney would all fit
in a 4000 sqft house, all at the same time during the workday?

Nope, they don't. The Bushes actually have a small compound at
Crawford, with one or two extra houses, staff trailers, etc., etc.
All proper and fitting for the POTUS, but hardly just the modest 4000
sqft ranch house described in the Snopes article. :-)

The Gore's, on the other hand, really do fit themselves, their
security (they don't use much) and their respective staff inside their
one house. A big-ass house, to be sure!

The Bush's Crawford compound (just so this post is not *completely*
aviation free, there are multiple Marine One shots here):
http://cryptome.org/bush-ranch.htm

The Gore's Tennessee residence:
http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthrea...?Number=543435

-Jay-

wrote:
On Apr 5, 12:20 pm, Ross wrote:
Check this out on Gore http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp

Nice Snopes article about the Gore's 10,000 sqft house and the 4000
sqft house at the Bush's Crawford "ranch", with the ground-water heat
pump system (very nifty indeed if you can sink a reasonable-depth well
next to your house... I'm jealous).

Question, though. Do you really think the President, the First Lady,
the President's security detail, the First Lady's security detail, the
President's staff, the First Lady's staff, *and* Barney would all fit
in a 4000 sqft house, all at the same time during the workday?

Nope, they don't. The Bushes actually have a small compound at
Crawford, with one or two extra houses, staff trailers, etc., etc.
All proper and fitting for the POTUS, but hardly just the modest 4000
sqft ranch house described in the Snopes article. :-)

The Gore's, on the other hand, really do fit themselves, their
security (they don't use much) and their respective staff inside their
one house. A big-ass house, to be sure!

The real issue though isn't the size of the house, it is the hypocrisy
that Gore represents and that Bush does not. Gore is the one crying
wolf and telling us how we have to change our lifestyle in order to
"save the world" all while doing completely the opposite personally. I
haven't heard Bush making such claims.

Matt

On Apr 5, 4:49 pm, A Guy Called Tyketto
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Robert M. Gary wrote:





On Apr 5, 8:08 am, "ve5jl" wrote:
Does anyone know the tail number of or have pictures of Al Gore's private
jet?

I've looked on a few major airplane photo sites with no luck.

Thanks in advance

VE5JL.

Gee I wonder how much "global warming" gases he would save if he used
an empty airline seat instead. Probably one of the reasons he refused
to take the pledge to not produce more green house gases than the
average American. This guy has found a profitible industry in global
warming and is milking it for all he can get out of it.

-Robert

I would have thought the same as you 2 years ago, then really
thought about it and how it is theoretically possible. Then, I found
this:

http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/2/21/113953/985

This and other things have seriously changed my mind about it.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind; that isn't my call. But
you have to admit: Gen. Aviation isn't really helping the cause. We're
flying around planes that can seat no more than 3 - 5 people, and
adding CO2 to the air just as much as those driving... Yet you're only
roasting Gore. We should look at ourselves first before going after
someone else..

BL.
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You mean the CO2 that is a vital nutrient to plant life and key to
photosynthesis of food for those same plants? The CO2 that is
currently at 380ppm but has been at 3000ppm for most of the history of
life on the planet? The same CO2 that at 1000ppm stimulates plants to
grow 50% faster than they do at 380ppm? The same CO2 that is a minor
greenhouse gas when compared with water vapor, which is the dominant
greenhouse gas and absorber of infra-red radiation? The same CO2 that
you emit every time you exhale? The same CO2 that is the primary
source of carbon for carbon based lifeforms on this planet? The same
CO2 that has to be in excess of 5000ppm to pose a respiritory problem
for animals and humans?

You talk about CO2 like it is some form of pollution, rather than a
key component of life on this planet. Hmmm, maybe in addition to
restricting CO2 emissions, we should restriction H20 vapor emissions,
the biggest greenhouse gas. You can buy Hydrogen offset credits at my
website http:\\someonebuymeadrink.com

The whole global warming thing in my opinion is a hoax. Even if it was true
there is nothing you can do about it. Oil will run out way before we
overheat.
People like Gore will make a living off the hoax.