Dan Rather forges ahead

"Bob Coe" wrote in message
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote

But, the more important questions relate to why the commander is
writing memos about pressure from a superior who retired 18 months
earlier and hence was no longer above him.

Or, why is the commander ordering Bush for a physical just two weeks
into his 90 period of eligibility? Or, since when does a squadron
commander issue orders for flight physicals (they don't!)

Or why does the commander identify a CYA memo as a CYA? If you're
really trying to cover your ass you don't point it out in the subject
line.

Or, why is the commander writing orders to a subordinate that he has
already approved for temporary posting to another state in a unit
which at the time had no airplanes to fly and over which he had no
authority?

Or, why does the commander's wife and son deny that he could type,
that he was a memo writer or that he had any problem with Lt. Bush who
he had commended very publicly on the record the year before?

All of your points are right on the mark!

I just don't see how a person like Dan Rather could be so easily duped by
these forgeries. They weren't even originals! Hell even I can cut out
someone's
signature and put it on any letter I want with just a Xerox machine.
Today
I would just use my scanner and add it to my MS Word document.

No, I think Dan Rather was putting his reputation behind a known
forgery, to give it credence, and to hurt the Republican party. I hope
it now results in his finally being put out to pasture (which should have
happened 10 years ago anyway). Same with the other scum-bags on
60 minutes, who are always making a mountain out of a mole hill.

I see only two reasons Dan Rather would have swalllowed the Rathergate
memos. One Rather is stupid, or two Rather wanted to believe them. I opt
for the the latter. Rather is a paristan democrat and is shows.

David

"Tom Cervo" wrote in message
...
Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.

In smaller case than the rest of the document? Not to mention that anytime I
ever did that with an IBM Selectric, when I tried to go back to the original
line I invariable found the following type to be just a *smidgen* out of
vertical alignment with what I had done before.

Brooks

What trick did you use on your typewriter to get it to do proportional
fonts - Do the terms "pica" and "elite" mean anything to you?

Jack


"Tom Cervo" wrote in message
...
Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.

"Tom Cervo" wrote
Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

Really!?? How do you get the font size to change?

No, the first typewriter to do that was the Selectric, as it had scripts of a
smaller font on the typing ball.

In article ,
(Tom Cervo) wrote:

Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

The reduced font size of the "th" is more than slightly a problem for
your argument in this case.

And there is still the problem of proportional font spacing.

Etc.

"Tom Cervo" wrote in message
...
Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.

Haven't seen a copy of the "memo", hu?
The superscripted "th" is in a much smaller font size than the rest of
the document; the "th" used aprox the same horizontal space as each
digit in the number before it. *If* it was produced by a typewriter of
any vintage that used impact transfers of fixed characters, the
superscript "th" was a single character.

On 11 Sep 2004 22:30:08 GMT, (Tom Cervo) wrote:

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

And makes the letters tiny?

The forgeries were almost certainly created by Microsoft Word, and
were certainly created by a computer. The forger was so amateurish
that he didn't know how to turn off the auto-correct feature!

all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:35:06 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

On 11 Sep 2004 22:30:08 GMT, (Tom Cervo) wrote:

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

And makes the letters tiny?

The forgeries were almost certainly created by Microsoft Word, and
were certainly created by a computer. The forger was so amateurish
that he didn't know how to turn off the auto-correct feature!

all the best -- Dan Ford

And, does anyone remember how you centered a heading with a
typewriter?

You counted the letters in the line to be typed, then centered the
roller and backspaced half the number of letters before starting to
type.

Can you imagine a commander typing himself an MFR going through that
sort of centered heading drill?


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
"Phantom Flights, Bangkok Nights"
Both from Smithsonian Books
***www.thunderchief.org

"Ed Rasimus" wrote

And, does anyone remember how you centered a heading with a
typewriter?

You counted the letters in the line to be typed, then centered the
roller and backspaced half the number of letters before starting to
type.

Can you imagine a commander typing himself an MFR going through that
sort of centered heading drill?

Yes, yes!

When I first saw the memo's, I thought maybe the Guard couldn't
afford letterhead. Didn't the Guard have letterhead back then?

Someone called it "Rathergate" and I thought this was pretty funny, since
CBS attaches -gate to just about everything political.

In article P%_0d.24205$ni.4337@okepread01, "Bob Coe"
wrote:

Someone called it "Rathergate" and I thought this was pretty funny, since
CBS attaches -gate to just about everything political.

A lot of folks are putting it online with the "th" superscripted, sorta
like "Ra^th^ergate."

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