USS America to be sunk off East Coast

In article et,
"D" wrote:

I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to be sunk
in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate various
explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.

This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.

-john-

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"John A. Weeks III" wrote in
:

In article et,
"D" wrote:

I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to
be sunk in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate
various explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.

This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.

Who pays for the conversions to meet basic fire codes? Who pays for the
required environmental cleanup? Who pays to staff it? Who pays for the
continued maintenance?

The USS Midway is currently docked at Navy Pier here in San Diego. It
required the expenditure of well over a million dollars to get it to its
present condition, and would require a lot more to get to a condition
where what you are proposing would be feasible.

I fear that such a project would quickly turn into a floating Cabrini
Green, for similar reasons, the foremost of which is lack of "pride of
ownership", somebody else's property, someone else's problems.

Dave in San Diego

In article ,
Dave in San Diego wrote:

"John A. Weeks III" wrote in
:

In article et,
"D" wrote:

I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to
be sunk in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate
various explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.

This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.

Who pays for the conversions to meet basic fire codes? Who pays for the
required environmental cleanup? Who pays to staff it? Who pays for the
continued maintenance?

Who pays for everything else in America? Government and faith-based
charities.

The USS Midway is currently docked at Navy Pier here in San Diego. It
required the expenditure of well over a million dollars to get it to its
present condition, and would require a lot more to get to a condition
where what you are proposing would be feasible.

That cost is a drop in the bucket compared with the war in Iraq.
It is also small compared to the crime and vandalism that currently
happens to and due to people being homeless.

I fear that such a project would quickly turn into a floating Cabrini
Green, for similar reasons, the foremost of which is lack of "pride of
ownership", somebody else's property, someone else's problems.

So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

-john-

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Yeah, and then if they start getting uppity about living conditions,
you can float the whole shebang out to sea some night and use it for a
Shootex! Right, Weeks? That's a great idea you had there.

In article . com,
"Jeb Hoge" wrote:

Yeah, and then if they start getting uppity about living conditions,
you can float the whole shebang out to sea some night and use it for a
Shootex! Right, Weeks? That's a great idea you had there.

Well, if they move it out 12 miles, they can start their own
casino and get rich like the American Indians. It was only
a matter of time before some sicko would think of sailing
the thing out into open water and sinking it. 8-) But that
sicko wouldn't be me.

Seriously, in Phoenix, the very popular sheriff puts prisoners
in tent cities in the desert by the airport. At least on this
carrier, they could pitch tents in the hangar deck. That would
a least give the homeless people some real shelter. Some of
the carriers that I have seen have stacks of rooms for the
aircrews right under the flight deck. These rooms were left
vacant after the aircrews were moved under the hangar deck.
At any rate, the would make great dorm-style space. Or if
you don't want the homeless to get this facility, how about
making it into a jail? We are building half-billion dollar
prisons at fever pitch rates, yet we still cannot keep up with
all the people we want to put in jail. How about a floating
jail put 20 miles out to sea. There would be no escapes.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III wrote to Dave:
So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

I thought that your earlier post was one of the most ill-thought-out
things I'd read in 15 years on Usenet...until I read this.
--
Noah

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In article , Noah Little
wrote:

John A. Weeks III wrote to Dave:
So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

I thought that your earlier post was one of the most ill-thought-out
things I'd read in 15 years on Usenet...until I read this.

He was trolling and caught a lot of fish.




D

"John A. Weeks III" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave in San Diego wrote:

"John A. Weeks III" wrote in
:

In article et,
"D" wrote:

I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to
be sunk in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate
various explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.

This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.

Who pays for the conversions to meet basic fire codes? Who pays for the
required environmental cleanup? Who pays to staff it? Who pays for the
continued maintenance?

Who pays for everything else in America? Government and faith-based
charities.

The USS Midway is currently docked at Navy Pier here in San Diego. It
required the expenditure of well over a million dollars to get it to its
present condition, and would require a lot more to get to a condition
where what you are proposing would be feasible.

That cost is a drop in the bucket compared with the war in Iraq.
It is also small compared to the crime and vandalism that currently
happens to and due to people being homeless.


So campaign for public housing, hell it would be cheaper to
pay their rent at a local Motel than refurbish a CV as
an accomodation ship.


Keith



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"John A. Weeks III" wrote:

So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

-john-

I hate it when people resort to 'tear jerking' to promote their
projects instead of using logical and sensible arguments. There's
lots of good reasons pro and con than resorting to this crap.
Smarten up.
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

John A. Weeks III wrote:

In article ,
Dave in San Diego wrote:



"John A. Weeks III" wrote in
:



In article et,
"D" wrote:



I just read in Defense News that the carrier USS America is going to
be sunk in tests off the East Coast of the US. They will detonate
various explosives aboard her to determine how much damage she takes.


This is a travesty. They should tie up this ship next to some
major city, and use it for housing homeless people. An aircraft
carrier can hold 5000 or more people when sailing, so it should
be no big deal to house 1000 homeless people, plus have deck
space for another 500 tents. After all, the ship has all the
living facilities like bunks, state rooms, plumbing, bathing,
kitchens, cafeterias, etc. It is a shame to let such a valuable
resource be destroyed like this.


Who pays for the conversions to meet basic fire codes? Who pays for the
required environmental cleanup? Who pays to staff it? Who pays for the
continued maintenance?



Who pays for everything else in America? Government and faith-based
charities.



The USS Midway is currently docked at Navy Pier here in San Diego. It
required the expenditure of well over a million dollars to get it to its
present condition, and would require a lot more to get to a condition
where what you are proposing would be feasible.



That cost is a drop in the bucket compared with the war in Iraq.
It is also small compared to the crime and vandalism that currently
happens to and due to people being homeless.



I fear that such a project would quickly turn into a floating Cabrini
Green, for similar reasons, the foremost of which is lack of "pride of
ownership", somebody else's property, someone else's problems.



So, you are in favor of letting homeless people freeze to death
sleeping under freeway overpasses and in rail yards in the harsh
cold winter climates in the northern lattitudes?

-john-



Well instead of letting them freeze, we'll drive them to your place. 5
Pm Ok with you???