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Old October 16th 06, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Grumman-581" wrote

Pushing it by hand, I just can't quite get it far
enough up to speed that it can hop that concrete lip...


Why not get someone with a table saw to rip a piece of wood with a long slope on
it, like a ramp, to make an easy transition onto the floor?
--
Jim in NC

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Old October 16th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

I'm not sure what MSFS is trying to simulate. Usually when you pull the
prop lever back beyond feather the lever breaks off. The props are
stopping because they are feathered.


MSFS indicates a range from +100% to -25%. I'm trying to figure out
what the negative numbers below the feather position indicate. It's
hard to see what the prop blades are doing (although their movements
are simulated).


Usually, if the blades do "reverse" for the purpose of slowing during
landing it will be on the throttle. Some planes have a "beta" position
for the blades that make them push air rather than pull it. It usually
involves moving the throttle past the idle stop and up and over the
stop and then further back. Pulling the prop lever back would not be a
good design to put the blades in beta. I've not heard of Baron's
having a Beta position, usually you only see that with turbo prop
engines, like in a King Air.

-Robert

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Old October 16th 06, 10:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ben Hallert
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I used to rent a plane with a sweet parking spot at Santa Monica
airport. It was a Cherokee (N8258S) that parked in the lower
southeast. It was parked with the tail a few feel from a cyclone fence
and faced outwards into the taxi lane. You'd start up and taxi
straight out without having the pull the plane anywhere.

The magic part about the parking spot was putting it back. I'd taxi
down to in front of the parking spot, do a neat partial pirouette so
the plane was facing outwards, then shut down the engine. The parking
was a very slight hill, so the plane would slowly roll backwards into
its parking spot. I'd steer it as needed with the rudder, then slow it
gently with the brakes (it never got over 1mph) when it was about time
to stop. The wheels would drop down into the slight depression in the
asphalt they'd made over the years and no further brake pressue was
required. No parking brake needed, no crazed runaway plane backing
into the fence, nothin'. Just sweet, non-sweaty zero-towbar parking
without needing the luxury of pull-through.

I've since moved, and the lower southeast has been turned into some
non-aviation (or at least, non-aircraft parking) area so I believe the
plane lives elsewhere in the airport now.

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Old October 17th 06, 12:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Grumman-581[_4_]
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On Oct 16, 4:02 pm, "Morgans" wrote:
Why not get someone with a table saw to rip a piece of wood with a long slope on
it, like a ramp, to make an easy transition onto the floor?


But then I wouldn't have had an excuse to buy the ATV (which I use in
the woods near the airport when the weather is too crappy for
flying)... grin

Actually, I thought about adding some concrete along the edge to make
it easier to get over the lip, but I don't remember which side of the
lip the door comes down on... We've had 6" of rain within the last two
days -- thunder storms, low ceilings, basically weather that I don't
want to be flying in... I'll try to remember to get a better look at
the lip the next time I'm at the airport...

 




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