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Old October 18th 12, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
CindyB[_2_]
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Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. In case you need a direct link, SSA members can use

http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266 .

If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.
Quickly! Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon.


If you are not a member, join! and Enjoy the web services, Soaring Magazine archive, Awards Programs, Group insurance program, and news updates on Governmental issues, among other fun things (member blogging enabled, picture archives, flight test performance articles).

Soar safely,
Cindy Brickner
Region 12 Director
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Old October 18th 12, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andrzej Kobus
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Oct 18, 4:22*pm, CindyB wrote:
Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. *In case you need a direct link, SSA members can use

*http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266*.

If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.
Quickly! *Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon..

* *If you are not a member, join! and Enjoy the web services, Soaring Magazine archive, Awards Programs, Group insurance program, and news updates on Governmental issues, among other fun things (member blogging enabled, picture archives, flight test performance articles).

Soar safely,
Cindy Brickner
Region 12 Director


Very interesting especially this:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf
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Old October 19th 12, 04:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Frank Whiteley
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 2:22:40 PM UTC-6, CindyB wrote:
Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. In case you need a direct link, SSA members can use



http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266 .



If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.

Quickly! Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon.





If you are not a member, join! and Enjoy the web services, Soaring Magazine archive, Awards Programs, Group insurance program, and news updates on Governmental issues, among other fun things (member blogging enabled, picture archives, flight test performance articles).



Soar safely,

Cindy Brickner

Region 12 Director


As most are on the road or in the air, a very few reports and agenda items aren't on the page but were distributed to directors.

Frank Whiteley
Region 9 Director
(awaiting connecting flight)
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Old October 19th 12, 04:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:

Very interesting especially this:


http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf


Wow! I wonder who got the "honor" of that beat-down? So glad that our government and law enforcement is there to protect us, even if it has to kill us to do it.

Steve

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Old October 19th 12, 05:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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On 10/19/2012 8:27 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:
On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:

Very interesting especially this:


http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf


Wow! I wonder who got the "honor" of that beat-down? So glad that
our government and law enforcement is there to protect us, even if it
has to kill us to do it.


We have a power reactor and other nuclear related stuff north of us
(Richland, WA). That area has "For reason of national security, pilots
are requested to avoid flight below 1800' MSL in this area". That's
about 1300 AGL. As I understand it, it's just a request, not a requirement.

If they are only two miles from an airport, it seem they would see a lot
of aircraft in the 1000-2000 foot AGL range, either over them or nearby.
Maybe it was the circling that bothered them? In any case, it was nutty
to think about "shooting down" any aircraft that they had time to worry
about. An aircraft with evil intentions would simply fly straight into
the reactor, long before they could arrange any "shoot down".

I wonder what is missing from what we've heard so far; at least the FAA
got it right, as I would expect.

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email me)
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Old October 19th 12, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Craig Funston[_2_]
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:37:01 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 8:27 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:

On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:




Very interesting especially this:




http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf




Wow! I wonder who got the "honor" of that beat-down? So glad that


our government and law enforcement is there to protect us, even if it


has to kill us to do it.




We have a power reactor and other nuclear related stuff north of us

(Richland, WA). That area has "For reason of national security, pilots

are requested to avoid flight below 1800' MSL in this area". That's

about 1300 AGL. As I understand it, it's just a request, not a requirement.



If they are only two miles from an airport, it seem they would see a lot

of aircraft in the 1000-2000 foot AGL range, either over them or nearby.

Maybe it was the circling that bothered them? In any case, it was nutty

to think about "shooting down" any aircraft that they had time to worry

about. An aircraft with evil intentions would simply fly straight into

the reactor, long before they could arrange any "shoot down".



I wonder what is missing from what we've heard so far; at least the FAA

got it right, as I would expect.



--

Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to

email me)


Is the copy of the AOPA letter available directly from the SSA website or from AOPA? I've gone into the member's section and don't find it.

Thanks,
Craig
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Old October 20th 12, 03:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
T[_2_]
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Oct 19, 2:27*pm, Craig Funston
wrote:
On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:37:01 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:
On 10/19/2012 8:27 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:


On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:


Very interesting especially this:


http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf


Wow! *I wonder who got the "honor" of that beat-down? *So glad that


our government and law enforcement is there to protect us, even if it


has to kill us to do it.


We have a power reactor and other nuclear related stuff north of us


(Richland, WA). That area has "For reason of national security, pilots


are requested to avoid flight below 1800' MSL in this area". That's


about 1300 AGL. As I understand it, it's just a request, not a requirement.


If they are only two miles from an airport, it seem they would see a lot


of aircraft in the 1000-2000 foot AGL range, either over them or nearby..


Maybe it was the circling that bothered them? In any case, it was nutty


to think about "shooting down" any aircraft that they had time to worry


about. An aircraft with evil intentions would simply fly straight into


the reactor, long before they could arrange any "shoot down".


I wonder what is missing from what we've heard so far; at least the FAA


got it right, as I would expect.


--


Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to


email me)


Is the copy of the AOPA letter available directly from the SSA website or from AOPA? *I've gone into the member's section and don't find it.

Thanks,
Craig


2nd and3rd posts have links to the letter on the SSA site.
T
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Old October 20th 12, 08:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Craig Funston[_2_]
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

On Friday, October 19, 2012 7:53:32 PM UTC-7, T wrote:
On Oct 19, 2:27*pm, Craig Funston

wrote:

On Friday, October 19, 2012 9:37:01 AM UTC-7, Eric Greenwell wrote:


On 10/19/2012 8:27 AM, Steve Leonard wrote:




On Thursday, October 18, 2012 5:57:42 PM UTC-5, Andrzej Kobus wrote:




Very interesting especially this:




http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf




Wow! *I wonder who got the "honor" of that beat-down? *So glad that




our government and law enforcement is there to protect us, even if it




has to kill us to do it.




We have a power reactor and other nuclear related stuff north of us




(Richland, WA). That area has "For reason of national security, pilots




are requested to avoid flight below 1800' MSL in this area". That's




about 1300 AGL. As I understand it, it's just a request, not a requirement.




If they are only two miles from an airport, it seem they would see a lot




of aircraft in the 1000-2000 foot AGL range, either over them or nearby.




Maybe it was the circling that bothered them? In any case, it was nutty




to think about "shooting down" any aircraft that they had time to worry




about. An aircraft with evil intentions would simply fly straight into




the reactor, long before they could arrange any "shoot down".




I wonder what is missing from what we've heard so far; at least the FAA




got it right, as I would expect.




--




Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to




email me)




Is the copy of the AOPA letter available directly from the SSA website or from AOPA? *I've gone into the member's section and don't find it.




Thanks,


Craig




2nd and3rd posts have links to the letter on the SSA site.

T


Thanks guys, I noted the referenced link and downloaded the PDF of the letter days ago.

I just went looking for it using a different path to confirm its veracity. Not that I would ever doubt something I've seen on RAS ;-) The whole thing has the weird vibe of an urban legend and I was trying to get it straight from the original sources. My point was that I didn't find a way to get to the file containing the AOPA letter on the SSA website. Seems like the logical place to find it might be "News".

Cheers,
Craig
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Old October 21st 12, 11:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BruceGreeff
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The land of the free...

Lots of Wide open spaces and tiny closed minds with a propensity to
police state excesses. Sounds like home.
;-)

On 2012/10/19 12:57 AM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Oct 18, 4:22 pm, CindyB wrote:
Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. In case you need a direct link, SSA members can use

http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266 .

If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.
Quickly! Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon.

If you are not a member, join! and Enjoy the web services, Soaring Magazine archive, Awards Programs, Group insurance program, and news updates on Governmental issues, among other fun things (member blogging enabled, picture archives, flight test performance articles).

Soar safely,
Cindy Brickner
Region 12 Director


Very interesting especially this:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf


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Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771
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Old October 21st 12, 06:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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Default SSA Board Meeting in Charlotte 10-20-12

Now, now, let's not generalize so much. We've had these sensitive areas,
like reactors and dams, for 11 years now, and this is the first time a
glider pilot has been harassed. This seems to be a very special case,
not "a propensity to police state excesses"; remember, the FAA said it
was fine.


On 10/21/2012 3:16 AM, BruceGreeff wrote:
The land of the free...

Lots of Wide open spaces and tiny closed minds with a propensity to
police state excesses. Sounds like home.
;-)

On 2012/10/19 12:57 AM, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
On Oct 18, 4:22 pm, CindyB wrote:
Perhaps folks have missed digging in to see what's on the Agenda for
the Fall SSA Board of Directors Meeting. In case you need a direct
link, SSA members can use

http://www.ssa.org/myhome.asp?mbr=4462854266 .

If you have an opinion on some of the business items, please contact
your Regional Director to influence their representative duties.
Quickly! Sorry I didn't post this earlier, I leave to travel East soon.

If you are not a member, join! and Enjoy the web services,
Soaring Magazine archive, Awards Programs, Group insurance program,
and news updates on Governmental issues, among other fun things
(member blogging enabled, picture archives, flight test performance
articles).

Soar safely,
Cindy Brickner
Region 12 Director


Very interesting especially this:

http://www.ssa.org/files/member/DHS%...SC%20pilot.pdf




--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
 




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