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****ed off FAA controller on blog
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS AFSS is not ATC. |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
Oh **** I forgot The FAA FIRED them all in 1980 DOUBLE LIE It was 1981, and those controllers QUIT. Every one of them had the opportunity to return to work and declined to do so. |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS AFSS is not ATC. They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and series as any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of the doubt. It's all irelevant anyway since not a single one was laid off. Being laid off means sitting at home without a paycheck. It's not really that complicated, but apparently it's a hard subject to grasp in Stupidassholeville. |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
Mike wrote:
"FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH" wrote in message ... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: Mike wrote: "barton fink via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in message news:89129c64eecd1@uwe... No2 wrote: DAMN!! http://themainbang.typepad.com/ This is John Carr at his best. A few seconds at that link. Clear that the spud you idolize is a foaming lunatic. What's truly funny is the spud in question and those like him have done more harm to the ATC profession than any morons like GW will ever realize. I'll give you an example. After the Comair crash 2 years ago, the spud went on TV and said it was the FAA's fault because they were forcing controllers to work with very little crew rest. The reality is much different. At all FAA ATC facilities, NATCA proposes the schedule for controllers. Most facilities opt for a shift structure that starts out on an evening shift, transitions to a day shift (with a short break in between) and then transitions to a graveyard shift with another short break in between. It sounds crazy, but the reason why they do that is to give themselves a longer weekend. After the spud blamed the FAA for something that was NATCA's fault, the FAA is now in the process of imposing a shift structure that will effectively cut controller's weekends down by half. This is just a small example of the nonsense they put out on practically a daily basis. NATCA has the potential to do a lot of good within the FAA, but rarely do they pick level headed leaders. Compare them to the airlines. AA's pilot's union has a very sour relationship with management, but even at that you will see their union standing toe to toe with AA on some issues. If you look at some of the other industry unions, they have a very good relationship with management. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. No controllers have received pay cuts in the same time period. Yet NATCA takes a confrontational stance on every single issue and they denegrate the entire FAA at every opportunity even if they have to lie to do so. The OP is an excellent example of the stupidity that infests their organization. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS Oh **** I forgot The FAA FIRED them all in 1980 Not all of them. Just the ones who were stupid enough not to come back to work after they were warned repeatedly they would be fired for participating in an ILLEGAL strike. Furthermore PATCO endorsed Reagan in the 1980 election. I bet that really ****ed them off. Kinda like NATCA endorsing Obama ****es you off, eh? DOUBLE LIE "FIRED" does not equal layed off. Try again. It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204 out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government employee survey? Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away Mr. Sycophant |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
Mike wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message m... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS AFSS is not ATC. They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and series as any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of the doubt. They called themselves controllers but they were not controllers. |
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FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204 out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government employee survey? Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away Mr. Sycophant How many FAA managers are former NATCA members? How many of them would have washed out as trainees and not be in FAA management today if NATCA hadn't had a policy of protecting every dues paying member without regard to their ability to do the job? |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
... Mike wrote: "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message m... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS AFSS is not ATC. They may not separate aircraft, but they had the same title and series as any other controller. So I was giving GW the benefit of the doubt. They called themselves controllers but they were not controllers. Agreed. |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
On Aug 24, 12:05 pm, FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote:
Mike wrote: "FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH" wrote in message ... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: Mike wrote: "barton fink via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote in message news:89129c64eecd1@uwe... No2 wrote: DAMN!! http://themainbang.typepad.com/ This is John Carr at his best. A few seconds at that link. Clear that the spud you idolize is a foaming lunatic. What's truly funny is the spud in question and those like him have done more harm to the ATC profession than any morons like GW will ever realize. I'll give you an example. After the Comair crash 2 years ago, the spud went on TV and said it was the FAA's fault because they were forcing controllers to work with very little crew rest. The reality is much different. At all FAA ATC facilities, NATCA proposes the schedule for controllers. Most facilities opt for a shift structure that starts out on an evening shift, transitions to a day shift (with a short break in between) and then transitions to a graveyard shift with another short break in between. It sounds crazy, but the reason why they do that is to give themselves a longer weekend. After the spud blamed the FAA for something that was NATCA's fault, the FAA is now in the process of imposing a shift structure that will effectively cut controller's weekends down by half. This is just a small example of the nonsense they put out on practically a daily basis. NATCA has the potential to do a lot of good within the FAA, but rarely do they pick level headed leaders. Compare them to the airlines. AA's pilot's union has a very sour relationship with management, but even at that you will see their union standing toe to toe with AA on some issues. If you look at some of the other industry unions, they have a very good relationship with management. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. No controllers have received pay cuts in the same time period. Yet NATCA takes a confrontational stance on every single issue and they denegrate the entire FAA at every opportunity even if they have to lie to do so. The OP is an excellent example of the stupidity that infests their organization. The FAA hasn't laid off a controller in about 30 years. LIE See AFSS Oh **** I forgot The FAA FIRED them all in 1980 Not all of them. Just the ones who were stupid enough not to come back to work after they were warned repeatedly they would be fired for participating in an ILLEGAL strike. Furthermore PATCO endorsed Reagan in the 1980 election. I bet that really ****ed them off. Kinda like NATCA endorsing Obama ****es you off, eh? DOUBLE LIE "FIRED" does not equal layed off. Try again. It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser That doesn't follow comrade. Simply because someone posts the truth doesn't make them wrong. If you don't like it perhaps you'd prefer to live in a place that doesn't allow dissent and 'intelligent' discourse? |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message ... FREEDOM-OF-SPEECH wrote: It is very apparent not only do you idolize FAA management you epitomize a weak FAA management sycophant and boot kisser Tell me FAA management sycophant why did the FAA rate 204 out of 222 in employee morale in the 2007 Government employee survey? Since you love FAA management so much explain that one away Mr. Sycophant How many FAA managers are former NATCA members? How many of them would have washed out as trainees and not be in FAA management today if NATCA hadn't had a policy of protecting every dues paying member without regard to their ability to do the job? I give up; how many? With documentation, of course. |
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****ed off FAA controller on blog
f-newguy wrote:
I give up; how many? With documentation, of course. It was a question, not a riddle. |
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