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Out of that 300,000 pilots, probably only about 50,000 vote, and that group
votes all over the place. Thus this is a meaningless group of voters and ignored by all political parties. "Bart" wrote in message ... What I am really surprised about is how many pussy pilots there are out there. I mean if there's 300,000 ish AOPA members out there, then that's an important block of votes. That's got to be one of the biggest PAC's next to AARP. My reasoning about why our community is so tolerant of this flagrant abuse is that we are all so used to being afraid of the FAA and what they may do to our our pilots licenses, that we've forgotten what it REALLY means to be a citizen of the United States. [deleted ...] |
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TFR not right IMO / sissy pilots
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:29:25 -0800, Bart wrote
(in article ): What I am really surprised about is how many pussy pilots there are out there. I mean if there's 300,000 ish AOPA members out there, then that's an important block of votes. That's got to be one of the biggest PAC's next to AARP. Not really. It is tiny in terms of PACs. AARP has nearly 30 million members. The National Education Association has 3 million members. So does the National Rifle Association. And these are the small ones. Most of the other big PACs and associations number their members in the many millions, too. AOPA is a drop in the ocean. |
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TFR not right IMO / sissy pilots
AOPA members do not vote in a block. Most have other issues
that take a higher personal priority. For instance, a solid pro-gun voter will not vote for an anti-gun candidate no matter how well the AOPA rates that candidate. The AOPA is effective because of a quality staff and an active media and lobby effort. But there are more cars and trucks in a smallish town and than in the whole nation. Pilots are independent voters, and airspace and pilots are a national [Federal issue] and airports are more local with Federal over-sight. Daley is still mayor in Chicago. "Christopher Campbell" wrote in message e.com... | On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 19:29:25 -0800, Bart wrote | (in article ): | | What I am really surprised about is how many pussy pilots there are out | there. | I mean if there's 300,000 ish AOPA members out there, then that's an | important | block of votes. That's got to be one of the biggest PAC's next to AARP. | | Not really. It is tiny in terms of PACs. AARP has nearly 30 million members. | The National Education Association has 3 million members. So does the | National Rifle Association. And these are the small ones. Most of the other | big PACs and associations number their members in the many millions, too. | | AOPA is a drop in the ocean. | |
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TFR not right IMO
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:10:28 -0800, Bart wrote
(in article ): I think this is really wrong! If they were on official biz for the government I could understand it, but they're just stumping for re-election and panhandling with rich people, and I don't think they should be doing it on our dime or at the expense of the public's right to travel. Some of the stupidest reasoning that I have ever heard, which is going some for Usenet. Look, you can argue about whether the security measures are effective or necessary. But to suggest that they should in place only when they are on "official biz" is utterly ridiculous. Terrorists and assassins work 'round the clock. They do not only strike when Presidents and Vice Presidents are on "official biz." No doubt if your favorite politician was assassinated while visiting his Aunt Mathilda in Hoople, North Dakota, you would be outraged if he normally had a security detail but, because he was not on the job, the detail was back in DC. So, you want them to have security, only when they are on official business, and then only if it is not a personal inconvenience to you? Limitations on your right to travel are the tip of the iceberg. Your freedom to speak is also limited. I remember when President Carter visited the Olympic Hotel in Seattle. Several staff members were given a few weeks off, without pay, because they had said things critical of Carter. Every guest had to undergo a background check. Anyone who had ever said anything even remotely threatening had his reservations canceled. People who had lived in the hotel for years were evicted because the President clears out not only the floor he is staying on, but also the floors above and below it. Presidents who go to ball games have entire sections of seating cleared out for security purposes. It does not matter if you have had season tickets for 50 years; you're out. Presidential motorcades close out whole networks of streets and highways, because the exact route of the motorcade is a secret. If you were counting on that route to get to your job on time, or even the hospital, tough luck. It has been that way for more than 40 years. You once wrote a threatening letter and your office overlooks a potential route? You get to stay home for the day, without pay. And maybe your boss will fire you because you did not show up to work. And then there is the cost of all this security, the money for which is taken from you every year at gunpoint. But hey, if all you are worried about is TFRs, no prob, Bro. Just remember you sound a little like a 3 pack a day smoker worrying about getting cancer from the MSG in a Chinese restaurant. |
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