question about engines

Yes, there are people who want a Model T Ford too. But the
only advantage a piston engine has over a turbine is low
altitude fuel consumption.



"Greg Farris" wrote in message
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| In article ,
| says...
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|
| Jim pretty much hit the nail on the head.
| During WWII there were a huge number of radial engines
produced, more than
| were needed. The surplus engines were readily available
until recently.
| The current trend of ag and seaplane operators switching
to PT6's is
| primarily a direct result of the depletion of the
inventory of WWII era new
| pickled engines. As they became harder and harder to
obtain, operators were
| forced to choose between overhauls, rebuilds, new
radials, and PT6s. Our ag
| operator was simply not satisfied with high price and
high maintenence of
| the new raidals nor the quality of the overhauled and
rebuilt engines,
| cylinders, and other components and has began the switch
to PT6s.
|
|
|
|
| Meanwhile - I've seen KingAir conversions replacing the
PT6's with
| water-cooled V8's!They make all kinds of claims for
performance improvements.
|
| GF
|

Morgans wrote:
"Greg Farris" wrote

Meanwhile - I've seen KingAir conversions replacing the PT6's with
water-cooled V8's!They make all kinds of claims for performance improvements.

Cool! Got any links?
--
Jim in NC

Good morning,

There was some press about an outfit that was developing a conversion
to swap the King Air's PT6 turboprop engines for V-8 piston engines. I
think the name of the engine was spelled something similar to "Oreneda"
or something vaguely like that. I have not read anything about it in
the past year or so, never seen a real one, and there is nothing that I
can find on the net about it ( perhaps someone more proficient with
Google would have success). Given the near bullet-proof reputation of
the PT6, maybe it was just too hard to sell, despite the cost of
dealing with timed-out turbines.

Blue skies . . .

John

look for Thunder engine


"John" wrote in message
ups.com...
|
| Morgans wrote:
| "Greg Farris" wrote
|
| Meanwhile - I've seen KingAir conversions replacing
the PT6's with
| water-cooled V8's!They make all kinds of claims for
performance improvements.
|
| Cool! Got any links?
| --
| Jim in NC
|
| Good morning,
|
| There was some press about an outfit that was developing a
conversion
| to swap the King Air's PT6 turboprop engines for V-8
piston engines. I
| think the name of the engine was spelled something similar
to "Oreneda"
| or something vaguely like that. I have not read anything
about it in
| the past year or so, never seen a real one, and there is
nothing that I
| can find on the net about it ( perhaps someone more
proficient with
| Google would have success). Given the near bullet-proof
reputation of
| the PT6, maybe it was just too hard to sell, despite the
cost of
| dealing with timed-out turbines.
|
| Blue skies . . .
|
| John
|

In article ,
says...


Jim pretty much hit the nail on the head.
During WWII there were a huge number of radial engines produced, more than
were needed. The surplus engines were readily available until recently.
The current trend of ag and seaplane operators switching to PT6's is
primarily a direct result of the depletion of the inventory of WWII era new
pickled engines. As they became harder and harder to obtain, operators were
forced to choose between overhauls, rebuilds, new radials, and PT6s. Our ag
operator was simply not satisfied with high price and high maintenence of
the new raidals nor the quality of the overhauled and rebuilt engines,
cylinders, and other components and has began the switch to PT6s.




Meanwhile - I've seen KingAir conversions replacing the PT6's with
water-cooled V8's!They make all kinds of claims for performance improvements.

GF

In article . com,
says...


There was some press about an outfit that was developing a conversion
to swap the King Air's PT6 turboprop engines for V-8 piston engines. I
think the name of the engine was spelled something similar to "Oreneda"
or something vaguely like that. I have not read anything about it in
the past year or so, never seen a real one, and there is nothing that I
can find on the net about it ( perhaps someone more proficient with
Google would have success). Given the near bullet-proof reputation of
the PT6, maybe it was just too hard to sell, despite the cost of
dealing with timed-out turbines.

Blue skies . . .




That's it :

http://www.orendarecip.com/index2.htm

I agree they seem to have quieted down a lot over the past couple of years.
Sure doies seem like a hard sell - the principal attractiveness of a KingAir
is the performance and reliability of a pair of PT6A's - then to go and put
recuiprocating engines in it . . .

Jim Macklin wrote:
look for Thunder engine

The same engine as in the Thunder Mustang? Sheesh, I know the plane
has eaten some folks' lunches . . . but what a beauty

John

John wrote:

Jim Macklin wrote:

look for Thunder engine


The same engine as in the Thunder Mustang?


Nobody with a brain cell left takes turbines out of a King Air and puts
in pistons.

Or switches from a P&W PT6 to a Walter
"Newps" wrote in message
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|
| John wrote:
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| look for Thunder engine
|
|
| The same engine as in the Thunder Mustang?
|
|
| Nobody with a brain cell left takes turbines out of a King
Air and puts
| in pistons.

In article ,
says...


look for Thunder engine



Found it !
http://www.intandem.com/NewPrideSite...esson2_13.html

Jim Macklin wrote:
Or switches from a P&W PT6 to a Walter
"Newps" wrote in message
. ..
|
|
| John wrote:
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| look for Thunder engine
|
|
| The same engine as in the Thunder Mustang?
|
|
| Nobody with a brain cell left takes turbines out of a King
Air and puts
| in pistons.

Jim -

I agree with you on all kinds of levels . . . it was just a
conversation. There may have been a business case . . . but I sure
never saw it