Historic FARs

Greetings Gentlemen,

I am looking for a copy of FAR Part 61.109(A) (Aeronautical Experience)
that was current in June 1970 when I got my private pilot ticket. I
don't need all of 61.109, just part A which is Private Single Engine
Land.

FAA.gov has some Historical FARs but not part 61.
I called the local FSDO but no luck there.
I have googled the subject but no hits for 61.109 that was current in
1970.
The Government Printing Office only carries the current edition.
I have checked some of the libraries that are supposed to carry
archives of govt materials but no hits yet.

Any Info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Dan Luer

In rec.aviation.student Dan wrote:
I have googled the subject but no hits for 61.109 that was current in
1970.
The Government Printing Office only carries the current edition.
I have checked some of the libraries that are supposed to carry
archives of govt materials but no hits yet.

A few possibilities:

(1) Your local library might have access to online legal resources that
would have this. You can ask a librarian, or check their web site if they
have one.

(2) HeinOnline (http://heinonline.org) seems to have it, but I don't know
if it's accessible through their trial accounts.

(3) The Library of Congress has an "Ask a Librarian" form on their web
site. They might be able to locate it for you.

(4) The GPO web site mentions Federal Depository Libraries. If you can
find a local one, you ought to find it there.

Or, of course, wait long enough and some packrat reading this newsgroup
will find their old book and type it in.

.... Alan
--
Alan Gerber
PP-ASEL
gerber AT panix DOT com

"Dan" wrote in news:1168024557.072212.153270@
42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com:

Greetings Gentlemen,

I am looking for a copy of FAR Part 61.109(A) (Aeronautical Experience)
that was current in June 1970 when I got my private pilot ticket. I
don't need all of 61.109, just part A which is Private Single Engine
Land.

Dan,

Not sure if this will help as it only goes back to 1997.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.faa.gov

Allen

Some old textbooks had pamphlet sections that contained the current(at time
of publication) FARs. The books that I used , Zweng Manuals ( Pan American
Navigation Service) did. You might want to search ebay for titles such as
"The New Private Pilot" or "The New Commercial Pilot"
"Dan" wrote in message
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Greetings Gentlemen,

I am looking for a copy of FAR Part 61.109(A) (Aeronautical Experience)
that was current in June 1970 when I got my private pilot ticket. I
don't need all of 61.109, just part A which is Private Single Engine
Land.

FAA.gov has some Historical FARs but not part 61.
I called the local FSDO but no luck there.
I have googled the subject but no hits for 61.109 that was current in
1970.
The Government Printing Office only carries the current edition.
I have checked some of the libraries that are supposed to carry
archives of govt materials but no hits yet.

Any Info would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Dan Luer

"Dan" wrote in message
ups.com...

Greetings Gentlemen,

I am looking for a copy of FAR Part 61.109(A) (Aeronautical Experience)
that was current in June 1970 when I got my private pilot ticket. I
don't need all of 61.109, just part A which is Private Single Engine
Land.

FAA.gov has some Historical FARs but not part 61.
I called the local FSDO but no luck there.
I have googled the subject but no hits for 61.109 that was current in
1970.
The Government Printing Office only carries the current edition.
I have checked some of the libraries that are supposed to carry
archives of govt materials but no hits yet.

Any Info would be appreciated.


I have a copy of Part 91 with an amendment date of 11/1/73. I have no idea
if any changes were made to § 61.109 between that date and June 1970.



§ 61.109 Airplane rating: aeronautical experience.

An applicant for a private pilot certificate with an airplane rating must
have had at least a total of 40 hours of flight instruction and solo flight,
time which must include the following :

(a) 20 hours of flight instruction from an authorized flight instructor,
including at least -

(1) Three hours of cross-country;

(2) Three hours at night, including 10 takeoffs and landings for
applicants seeking night flying privileges; and

(3) Three hours in airplanes in preparation for the private pilot flight
test within 60 days prior to that test.

An applicant who does not meet the night flying requirement in paragraph
(a)(2) is issued a private pilot certificate bearing the limitation "Night
flying prohibited." This limitation may be removed if the holder of the
certificate shows that he has met the requirements of paragraph (a)(2).

(b) Twenty hours of solo flight time, including at least -

( 1 ) Ten hours in airplanes ;

(2) Ten hours of cross-country flights, each flight with a landing more
than 50 nautical miles from the point of departure, and one with landings
at three [joints, each of which is more than 100 nautical miles from each
of the other two points; and

(3) Three solo takeoffs and landings to a full stop at an airport with
an operating control tower.

Dan,

The FAA's Law Library in HQ (which I used frequently) has the FARs
dating all the way back to the original CARS and CAMS, about the
mid-1930s. Statutes also.

Here's their contact info:

Library Name: Law Library
Address: 800 Independence Ave., SW, Rm. 924, Washington, D.C. 20591
Phone Number: Reference -- 202/267-3174
Fax Number: 202/493-5077
Hours: 8:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m., M-F
Visitor Policy: Open to the public with photo ID; all visitors must
be escorted; appointments are preferred but not required
Staff Contacts: Reference -- Terry Dempsey; ILL -- D'borah Hart
Library Web catalog: TBA
Other Agency Library: DOT Library, 202/366-0746
Agency Web Site: http://www.FAA.gov/


Best

Rick Cremer
FAA Safety Inspector (Ret.)