France Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

It's funny, we have the same joke, with french transforming into german.
I wonder if it exists in other languages??
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"Larry Dighera" a écrit dans le message de news:
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On the other hand:



http://www.absolutelyjokes.com/ethni...european-union
-decision-on-official-language.html
European Union Decision On Official Language

The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby
English will be the official language of the EU rather than German
which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her
Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had some room
for improvement and has accepted a 5 year phase-in plan that would
be known as "Euro-English".

In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this
will make the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard "c" will be
dropped in favour of the"k". This should klear up konfusion and
keyboards kan have 1 less letter. There will be growing publik
enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be
replaced with "f". This will make words like "fotograf" 20%
shorter.

In the 3rd year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan be
ekspekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are
possible. Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters,
which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil
agre that the horible mes of the silent "e"s in the language is
disgraseful, and they should go away.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as
replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v". During ze fifz year, ze
unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou" and similar
changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil
be no mor trubl or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to
understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru! And zen ve vil
tak over ze vorld!

IIRC, the very first time this linguistic concern was initially addressed,
i.e., that France should work to retard the "...incursion of English words
into the French lexicon", mention was made that such was having a
deleterious impact on "Le (sp?) standing" of the French language. Gosh, has
there ever been an English word that is more incursive on French language
and more..."English"...than "standing"....? I suppose the effort keeps a few
persons more or less gainfully employed.

"bsh" wrote in message
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PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello
"courriel" — the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using
to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all
government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest
step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier
electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail — a claim some
industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly
used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail'
in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was
published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a
term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission
said.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ith__e_mail__1

Subject: France Bans the Term 'E-Mail'
From: Mary Shafer
Date: 7/19/03 9:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:23:58 -0400, "Gooneybird"
wrote:

I don't know how moot it is, but it sure looks childish and petty to me. I
seriously doubt that very many Frenchmen really care that the five letter
acronym (email) is rooted in the English language rather than the French.
It's
shorter than the Gallic substitute for it, and therefore more convenient
even
for French users of the Internet.

This isn't exactly new. The language police were trying to eliminate
"le weekend" a couple of decades ago. They're trying to keep French
French.



Also "PULLOVER" for sweater.

Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Andrew Chaplin wrote:

[snip]

I use "courriel" daily at the House of Commons of Canada. It works
much better in French than "e-mail". From the Canadian point of view,
it's a sign that French can actually grow and accept influences
outside France (even if it hurts). "E-mail" is too close to the French
word for enamel.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)
^^^^^^

So, so you are using courriel daily...

;-)

Frank

"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
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And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.

Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."

:^)

The CO

"Mycroft" wrote in message ...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?

Myc


Start taking your Spanish lessons yankee gringo. La Razza is inside the gates.



"bsh" wrote in message
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PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello
"courriel" ? the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using
to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all
government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest
step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier
electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail ? a claim some
industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly
used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail'
in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was
published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a
term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission
said.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ith__e_mail__1

"The CO" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
...

"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.

Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."

LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at it in
french.
Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....

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_________________________________________
Pierre-Henri BARAS

Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm
http://www.ffaa.net
Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web
http://www.aviation-fr.info

Pardon, mais il y a des americains qui essayent parler en francais. Je voudrais
savoir ou vous avez appris la langue anglais. C'est la langue (comment se dit
le mot en francais?) "colloquial", et c'est tres bon.

George Z.


"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
...


"The CO" a écrit dans le message de news:
...

"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
...

"Mycroft" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?


No we don't, we don't give a rat's ass.

Cue old joke about non natives speakers attempting French language::
"The French don't really care what you say, but you *must* pronounce it
correctly."

LOL. We *do* appreciate people who make an small effort to speak french,
even if it turns out real bad. 80% of the people here understand minimal
english, but you'll probably be treated better if you give a shot at it in
french.
Call it arrogance if you want, I lack the objectivity to judge it....

--
_________________________________________
Pierre-Henri BARAS

Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm
http://www.ffaa.net
Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web
http://www.aviation-fr.info

"Gooneybird" a écrit dans le message de
...
Pardon, mais il y a des americains qui essayent parler en francais. Je
voudrais
savoir ou vous avez appris la langue anglais. C'est la langue (comment se
dit
le mot en francais?) "colloquial", et c'est tres bon.

George Z.


Colloquial could be translated by "familier" or "couramment parlé".
Your French is pretty good, George. If I may, it just lacks a "de" between
"essayent" and "parler". Also, "anglais" should be put on its feminine form
(anglaise) as "langue" is a feminine word... I'd give you an A minus :-)

Cordialement,
ArVa

See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unicod...19948?expand=1 and
following for a debunking of this story.

Again American news media messes up.

And American news media wonder why they are not trusted.

And the gullible anti-French pro-Bush contingent spreads the silly
account widely.

Jim Allan


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(The Enlightenment) wrote in message . com...
"Mycroft" wrote in message ...
And the French wonder why a lot of the world find them irritating!?

Myc


Start taking your Spanish lessons yankee gringo. La Razza is inside the gates.



"bsh" wrote in message
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PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello
"courriel" ? the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using
to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all
government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest
step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists
Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier
electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail ? a claim some
industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly
used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail'
in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was
published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a
term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission
said.


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