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  #231  
Old March 22nd 08, 05:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

Found it. It's an old copy of Air World for sale on Ebay item #
270220832828


Looking more closely, I think it's a painting. Might even be the same one
you have.


Bertie
  #232  
Old March 22nd 08, 01:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mar 21, 9:01*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:07:05 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
WJRFlyBoy wrote:


On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


WJRFlyBoy wrote:


Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.


1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.


--


Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.


Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.

Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).


There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I have not been to captiva in years but back then there was no bridge
leading to it. The only access was by aircraft or boat. That fact in
itself makes comparing captiva to anything else a act of futility.....
  #233  
Old March 22nd 08, 03:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mar 17, 10:31*pm, "Highflyer" wrote:
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in .com... wrote in
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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.


Bunyip:

It's supposed to, the bump cowl and such. But it's nothing like it,
really. For one thing, the 'coupe wasn't built like lawn furniture.. And
a 'coupe with a two stroke? Shudder!


Bertie


If you want to see a "modern" homebuilt version of the Monocoupe take a look
at the "Mullicoupe" that were designed by Jim Younkin. *It looks like a
"standoff" scale model of the clipwing Monocoupe with the Warner radial
engine. *Actually it *is somewhat larger, being basically a two place
version of Ike Howard's "Mr. Mulligan" racer, which later became the Howard
series of airplanes. *Jim built a Mr. Mulligan replica which goes like
blazes. *Bud Dake had a lovely Warner Monocoupe and wanted something a bit
bigger. *Jim told me he used a lot of Howard in the Mullicoupe. *Bud told me
that the pilot visibility in the Mullicoupe was a lot better than in the
Monocoupe. *The Mullicoupe was powered by a 450 HP R-985 Pratt and Whitney
so it had the power to get up an go. *It would cruise at well over 200 mph.
I never got to fly it before Bud was killed in an unfortunate crash with his
Monocoupe at St. Louis a few years ago.

Highflyer


Thanks HF. I Googled "Mullicoupe". Beautiful is not adequet of a
word to describe the plane.

Wil
  #234  
Old March 23rd 08, 12:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.


Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.

Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).


There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I have not been to captiva in years but back then there was no bridge
leading to it. The only access was by aircraft or boat. That fact in
itself makes comparing captiva to anything else a act of futility.....


Still no (rebuilt) bridge but capable, full time shuttle, easy boat
access, plane....Captiva isn't unique by a long shot for FL though. But
few of the islands have their own airstrips which equates to a very
unique living circumstance (as evidenced by the number of resales to
average).
  #235  
Old March 24th 08, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:


There is a real danger. If you care to deny the fact that there is a
history of loss of life, physical destruction to property in airparks,
then you had best opt out. I certainly have no more use to discuss this
with you if you're position so flagrantly flies in the face of reality.


Have there been accidents at airparks? Sure, but it isn't like it
happens all that often.

The old saying that the bathroom is the most dangerous room in your
house isn't because it faces a landing strip.
  #236  
Old March 24th 08, 02:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mar 22, 6:47*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.


Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.


Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).


There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have not been to captiva in years but back then there was no bridge
leading to it. The only access was by aircraft or boat. That fact in
itself makes comparing captiva to anything else a act of futility.....


Still no (rebuilt) bridge but capable, full time shuttle, easy boat
access, plane....Captiva isn't unique by a long shot for FL though. But
few of the islands have their own airstrips which equates to a very
unique living circumstance (as evidenced by the number of resales to
average).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your first sentence contradicts your second sentence.... Is it unique
or not . ?????????
  #237  
Old March 25th 08, 11:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:05:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 22, 6:47*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.


Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.


Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).


There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have not been to captiva in years but back then there was no bridge
leading to it. The only access was by aircraft or boat. That fact in
itself makes comparing captiva to anything else a act of futility.....


Still no (rebuilt) bridge but capable, full time shuttle, easy boat
access, plane....Captiva isn't unique by a long shot for FL though. But
few of the islands have their own airstrips which equates to a very
unique living circumstance (as evidenced by the number of resales to
average).- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Your first sentence contradicts your second sentence.... Is it unique
or not . ?????????


Unique for Kansas, not unique for Florida. Do you see why?
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
  #238  
Old March 25th 08, 11:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Mar 25, 5:36*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 07:05:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:47*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:27:22 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.


Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.


Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).


There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I have not been to captiva in years but back then there was no bridge
leading to it. The only access was by aircraft or boat. That fact in
itself makes comparing captiva to anything else a act of futility.....


Still no (rebuilt) bridge but capable, full time shuttle, easy boat
access, plane....Captiva isn't unique by a long shot for FL though. But
few of the islands have their own airstrips which equates to a very
unique living circumstance (as evidenced by the number of resales to
average).- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Your first sentence contradicts your second sentence.... Is it unique
or not . ?????????


Unique for Kansas, not unique for Florida. Do you see why?
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Beats hell out of me,,, I Live in Wyoming,,, not Kansas
.
P.S.. I was born and raised in Fla and you guys can have that god
forsaken state now. Se habla espanol ?????????

Ben
  #239  
Old March 26th 08, 03:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Todd W. Deckard wrote:
Many years ago I had a '170 based at the Waunakee Wisconsin airpark. I was
coming in to land and a little
fellow cuts towards the runway on his bike. As I overfly he drops it right
on the centerline and bolts.
Now there was enough runway left in the denominator and with careful
attention to any more animal crossings I land and scoop up the offending
bicycle.

Pretty soon his lawyer shows up with some sort of explaination I cannot
remember in an effort to get the bike back -- and I get a good chance to
give the Airport Safety Lecture. I suggest that if he would like to sit in
the plane and put the headphones on that is fine. Now the rest of The
Little Rascals are hiding behind rocks and bushes nearby watching to see
what happens. I suggest that if someone can produce a responsible parent
there might be enough daylight for a ride or two. Eventually some parents
are located and it is another chance to reinforce the airport safety lecture
(and make sure bail was posted and a sentencing hearing was scheduled).

One mom had been in the Navy which made her most qualified to interview hobo
pilot and she asked various questions about my freshmen flying background
(she even looked at my logbook). One or two of the kids got Young Eagles
certificates. One of the others certainly learned his lesson as I can be
sure Navy-Mom narced on him.

I did give him his bike back.
Todd





"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
.. .

I just read several airpark descriptions, many were relating the fact that
kids were riding their bicycles not only along the strip but across the
strips. Including 3 wheelers, etc.
--




Good for you!!! Turn an bratty kid into a learning experience! We had
our plane at a Dulles Days Plane Pull and went back to the plane to find
3 kids running up and down the wing (with mom looking on). Ron
retreated to the plane next door with the owner and said "she's going
into teacher mode". I had all three kids, sniffling but not crying and
promising NEVER to touch another airplane without the permission of the
owner and then they all got inside, with my supervision and learned
quite a lot. They had a great time, mom learned not to let her kids
touch stuff that wasn't theirs (maybe) and airplanes ruled the day!

Margy
  #240  
Old March 26th 08, 03:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:07:05 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:


WJRFlyBoy wrote:


On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:56:00 -0500, Gig 601XL Builder wrote:


WJRFlyBoy wrote:


Then there are trains and train tracks but two things differ.

1) People, right or wrong, don't view the danger the same
2) You can invest a potload of money into an airpark house and because
of perceptions alone, your resale market gets smaller and smaller.

--


Utter nonsense! A GA airport does not negatively affect real estate
values.



Never said that. I said the market for resale is significantly affected
by perceptions which reduce the number of people who would be interested
in purchasing in an airpark. I would particularly point to the Captiva
example. it's an absolutely gorgeous place...with a limited market.
Resales there take loads of time, one reason is the perception of living
near an airstrip.


Here at Spruce Creek we have some of the highest-priced homes in the
county (near Daytona Beach).



There are $10M homse on Captiva. The price of the home means nothing in
terms of what I said, MOF, the higher the price of the home, including
airstrip, further limits the resale market. These are not speculations,
they are mathematical and historical facts.

Duh, every "specialty" neighborhood poses a difficult time for resale.
I for one would NEVER buy a house in a golf community, but I'm building
in an aviation community. There are more golfers than pilots (sad, but
true) so the market isn't as limited, but pilots are more fun :-}!
 




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