air conditioning- nice, required, or silly?

Thomas Borchert wrote:
Rob,

but
I've been thinking about trying something like this:

http://www.sportys.com/press/displaypress.cfm?id=325


Aviation Consumer had a review on these in one of the recent issues.

I showed the AC article on the AC to my wife and the thought it was a great
idea until I explained how many fewer shoes she would be able to take on
vacation if we had that in the plane.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Dave wrote:
The Visitor wrote:

Viperdoc wrote:
How much does aftermarket AC cost? The best price I've seen for a
Baron was around $25,000 installed!
You had better want it bad for 25k!

I have not heard of any aftermarket prices.
Mine was factory.
And if I were to buy again, I would pay 25k extra for the option.

John

Has anybody talked about the electric seat coolers here yet?
It can be a good option to keeping cooler during those hot days.

Dave

Got a link? I've never heard of them.



http://www.activeforever.com/ps-1641...t-cushion.aspx
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/s...ief-190908.php

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:14:35 GMT, Dave wrote:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Dave wrote:
The Visitor wrote:

Viperdoc wrote:
How much does aftermarket AC cost? The best price I've seen for a
Baron was around $25,000 installed!
You had better want it bad for 25k!

I have not heard of any aftermarket prices.
Mine was factory.
And if I were to buy again, I would pay 25k extra for the option.

John

Has anybody talked about the electric seat coolers here yet?
It can be a good option to keeping cooler during those hot days.

Dave

Got a link? I've never heard of them.



http://www.activeforever.com/ps-1641...t-cushion.aspx
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/s...ief-190908.php

Am I right in the math that the first one only draws 3 amps (30 watts
divided by 12 volts)?

"Peter" wrote in message
...
Looking at the various cars I have owned and how the aircon on them
worked (or, more frequently, didn't work) I don't think there is much
chance of aircon on GA being reliable. Most GA stuff is the cheap and
old (1950s) end of the motor vehicle parts market. The only car I have
ever owned with a reliable aircon is a Toyota/Lexus Soarer (US SC300
is the equivalent) on which everything is built like a tank. The
refrigerant tends to leak out within a year, the compressors get
cracks and leak... One car, a Toyota Celica, which I owned for 15
years, had its aircon working for maybe 1 year out of the 15. And
Toyotas are the best of the lot normally. I've never had anything go
wrong on a Toyota, except the aircon.

Here in Florida (where virtually all cars have AC) it is a general rule of
thumb that the AC will cost as much to maintain as the entire rest of the car.
It is well worth it!

The real heat of the summer is not yet here, but I went up yesterday for
some pattern work. I sweated so much that I was still damp an hour later. AC
in a light airplane would be really nice.

Vaughn

"Dave" wrote in message
et...
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Dave wrote:
The Visitor wrote:

Viperdoc wrote:
How much does aftermarket AC cost? The best price I've seen for a
Baron was around $25,000 installed!
You had better want it bad for 25k!

I have not heard of any aftermarket prices.
Mine was factory.
And if I were to buy again, I would pay 25k extra for the option.

John

Has anybody talked about the electric seat coolers here yet?
It can be a good option to keeping cooler during those hot days.

Dave

Got a link? I've never heard of them.

http://www.activeforever.com/ps-1641...t-cushion.aspx
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/s...ief-190908.php


Wouldn't that result in a woman being "frigid"?

"Vaughn Simon" wrote in message
...

"Peter" wrote in message
...
Looking at the various cars I have owned and how the aircon on them
worked (or, more frequently, didn't work) I don't think there is much
chance of aircon on GA being reliable. Most GA stuff is the cheap and
old (1950s) end of the motor vehicle parts market. The only car I have
ever owned with a reliable aircon is a Toyota/Lexus Soarer (US SC300
is the equivalent) on which everything is built like a tank. The
refrigerant tends to leak out within a year, the compressors get
cracks and leak... One car, a Toyota Celica, which I owned for 15
years, had its aircon working for maybe 1 year out of the 15. And
Toyotas are the best of the lot normally. I've never had anything go
wrong on a Toyota, except the aircon.

Here in Florida (where virtually all cars have AC) it is a general
rule of thumb that the AC will cost as much to maintain as the entire rest
of the car. It is well worth it!

Odd! I've had cars with A/C for the past 30 years and never had any A/C
maintenance other than recharging them. Even that last time was several
years ago.


The real heat of the summer is not yet here, but I went up yesterday
for some pattern work. I sweated so much that I was still damp an hour
later. AC in a light airplane would be really nice.

Sure is!!!

I got my first airborne A/C this past Febriary; let's see if it holds up as
well as the automotive ones have.

Matt B.

--
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become
dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest
authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
-- Omar Ahmad, Chairman Emeritus, Council on American-Islamic Relations
(CAIR).

"Peter" wrote in message
...

Looking at the various cars I have owned and how the aircon on them
worked (or, more frequently, didn't work) I don't think there is much
chance of aircon on GA being reliable. Most GA stuff is the cheap and
old (1950s) end of the motor vehicle parts market.

[snip]

"Aircon?" Are Filipino?



Marco

On Jul 9, 3:26 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

The AC is really only used on the ground to cool the plane when its
been sitting in the 110F sun. One airbourne the AC serves not purpose.

-Robert

Not sure where you're at, but around here GA is stuck at or below 3500
due the DFW Class B - and in the summertime we need to be at 8000 or
better to escape the heat.

Mike