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Old November 28th 03, 06:29 AM
Dan Jacobson
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I'm curious about two types of transmissions from aircrafts:
1. squawk transponder Mode-C Secondary Surveillance Radar (SSR) or whatever
2. ACARS

I know ACARS is around 131 Mkz usually, but what frequency is the SSR stuff?

What would they sound like on a scanner? Does ACARS sound indeed like
a short bird squawk, listening in AM mode? I will attempt to decode it
with acarsd.org's Linux program.

How about VOR's, ~110-115 Mhz, listening in AM mode? My squelch opens
up but all I hear is silence, correct?

What does TACAN sound like?

Describe them, don't just refer me to some sound files that are too
big for little me to download.

P.S. CW means Morse code, but what about the CWP seen on aviation
maps' frequency tables, does it just mean the same?
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Old November 29th 03, 04:13 AM
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Dan Jacobson wrote:

I'm curious about two types of transmissions from aircrafts:
1. squawk transponder Mode-C Secondary Surveillance Radar (SSR) or whatever
2. ACARS

I know ACARS is around 131 Mkz usually, but what frequency is the SSR stuff?

What would they sound like on a scanner? Does ACARS sound indeed like
a short bird squawk, listening in AM mode? I will attempt to decode it
with acarsd.org's Linux program.

How about VOR's, ~110-115 Mhz, listening in AM mode? My squelch opens
up but all I hear is silence, correct?

What does TACAN sound like?

Describe them, don't just refer me to some sound files that are too
big for little me to download.

P.S. CW means Morse code, but what about the CWP seen on aviation
maps' frequency tables, does it just mean the same?



SSR uses two frequencies for all modes (A, C, S, 1, 2, 3, 4, etc.) they
are 1030 and 1090 MHz, I can't remember which is interrogator and which
is transponder - it's late and I'm not inclined to look it up right now.
If you hear a short burst of digital pulses at regular intervals -
typically 5 to 10 seconds - it is an interrogator. If there is a mixture
of signals of varying strength at random intervals you are listening to
the transponders.

VOR, if you are in a quiet environment and listen carefully, has a slow
very low frequency variation - but they have a CW identifier and some
have voice broadcasts of weather information.

TACAN is also up in the 1,000 MHz range and I have no recollection of
what it sounds like - listening to digital signals has never seemed
particularly productive to me.

I'm curious about the CWP since it is not familiar to me and I don't
recall seeing it in my Flight Supplement, or maps and charts - maybe it
is one of those things one sees so often it doesn't get noticed but I
can't even find it in the Flight Supplement list of abbreviations and
acronyms. By the way cw in my Flight Supplement decodes as clockwise!

Dave
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Old November 29th 03, 05:35 AM
Icebound
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Dave Holford wrote:
...By the way cw in my Flight Supplement decodes as clockwise!



CW does not mean "morse code" as Dan suggested.... CW means "continuous
wave", which is one (slightly misnamed) method of transmitting morse
code... (it's not continuous at all, because it is "interrupted" to
produce the dots and dashes).

Most morse code identifiers that pilots hear are Amplitude or Frequency
modulations on top of a continuous carrier signal, and not "continuous
wave", in the classic sense, at all.

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Old November 29th 03, 05:35 PM
Everett M. Greene
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Dave Holford writes:
[snip]
VOR, if you are in a quiet environment and listen carefully, has a slow
very low frequency variation - but they have a CW identifier and some
have voice broadcasts of weather information.


I was able to listen to STP VOR (108.0) on an analog-tuned FM
receiver when living in St. Paul. Not very exciting -- you
heard the voice and code identifier continually. Not the
most exciting listening...
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Old December 2nd 03, 04:09 PM
Mike Teague
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"Dan Jacobson" wrote in message
...

How about VOR's, ~110-115 Mhz, listening in AM mode? My squelch opens
up but all I hear is silence, correct?


Sitting at PDX, I've tuned in the VOR and a localizer on a scanner..... I
was able to hear the morse ID..

--
Mike Teague, Infidel
Vancouver, WA, USA


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Old December 4th 03, 08:27 PM
Dan Jacobson
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What does ACARS sound like?

http://www.wunclub.com/sounds/acars.wav (181kb)

P.S. CW means Morse code, but what about the CWP seen on aviation
maps' frequency tables, does it just mean the same?


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