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Old June 5th 07, 06:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Shirl
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Mxsmanic wrote:
I'm actually almost pathologically safety-conscious in
vehicles, and I would be an extraordinarily safe pilot.


That's great, but being an "extraordinarily safe pilot" doesn't mean
accidents won't happen. There's absolutely no way that even the safest
pilot can anticipate ALL mechanical failures; even the very best
aircraft mechanics can't anticipate ALL mechanical failures. You can't
"make sure" your airplane is going to be 100% safe for the duration of
ALL your flights any more than you can "make sure" your car won't break
down every time you leave your driveway, despite all your and your
mechanic's best efforts.
  #22  
Old June 5th 07, 06:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Well, then, by all means, fly recklessly in half-broken
aircraft, and enjoy the consequences.


Bad pilots and bad maintenance exist, sure ... but accidents can and do
occur in the most meticulously maintained aircraft flown by
"extraordinarily safe" pilots too. You shouldn't make any assumptions
about pilots or maintenance every time there is a crash.
  #23  
Old June 5th 07, 06:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Stewart wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

Bertie the Bunyip writes:

Could be worse, you could be flying, or trying to.



I'm actually almost pathologically safety-conscious in vehicles, and I
would
be an extraordinarily safe pilot.



Doesn't matter how safety-conscious you are if
you're having an anxiety attack and loosing
bowel control on final....


On an office chair behind a simulator.

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Old June 5th 07, 07:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I see on the CNN Web page not one but two reports of GA plane crashes.
General Aviation isn't inherently dangerous, so the large number of
crashes
can only mean that there are lots of bad pilots and poorly-maintained
aircraft
out there. And the accidents that occur as a result are ruining the
reputation of GA in the eyes of the public.


Get off it. A Cub can crash out of a dirt strip in the Ozarks and it makes
national news. On the same day, 1000 people can get killed on the highway in
Arkansas, and it's a footnote in the local paper.

Been one of my gripes for 50 years.


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Old June 5th 07, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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gatt wrote:
Yep. NOTAM: TROLL ACTIVITY REPORTED REC.AVIATION.PILOTING


Isn't that:

TRLNG VCNTY RAP ADV ALTRN PSTNG. KLLFL AVBL, ADV USE TIL FTHR NTC.

TheSmokingGnu
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Old June 5th 07, 07:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Shirl writes:

Bad pilots and bad maintenance exist, sure ... but accidents can and do
occur in the most meticulously maintained aircraft flown by
"extraordinarily safe" pilots too. You shouldn't make any assumptions
about pilots or maintenance every time there is a crash.


I'm just going by the numbers. Random, unavoidable mechanical or other
failures are quite rare as causes of accidents, even in GA aircraft. Most
accidents are avoidable, either with a better pilot or a more carefully
maintained aircraft, or both.
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Old June 5th 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Shirl writes:

That's great, but being an "extraordinarily safe pilot" doesn't mean
accidents won't happen.


They would be far less likely to happen than they would be if I were a
reckless pilot.
  #28  
Old June 5th 07, 07:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Jim Stewart writes:

Doesn't matter how safety-conscious you are if
you're having an anxiety attack and loosing
bowel control on final....


If you're careful, you should be able to avoid anxiety.
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Old June 5th 07, 07:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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birdog writes:

Get off it. A Cub can crash out of a dirt strip in the Ozarks and it makes
national news. On the same day, 1000 people can get killed on the highway in
Arkansas, and it's a footnote in the local paper.


Be that as it may, the stories on GA crashes do damage; the non-stories on
highway fatalities do not.

Been one of my gripes for 50 years.


What have you done about it?
 




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