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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:26:48 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: But you can look where you're going in both cases: with your head level with the horizon, and with your head level with the aircraft. I can't imagine a pilot would crane his head left or right in order to stay oriented with the horizon. The natural thing to do is have your spine straight up and down, perpendicular to your seat. (Does anybody do it another way--in a real airplane, I mean?) Blue skies! -- Dan Ford Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942 forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:26:05 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote: Interesting. When you learn to ride a motorcycle, you're taught to keep your head normal to the horizon in turns ... because turning your head with the bike as you lean into a turn results in disorientation. It didn't for me! I rode a bike for a couple years, and I leaned with the machine. I do the same thing with the bike-bike, though of course with pedal power the lean isn't very radical. Blue skies! -- Dan Ford Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942 forthcoming from HarperCollins www.flyingtigersbook.com |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On 2007-06-13 11:31:15 -0400, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net said:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:26:48 +0200, Mxsmanic wrote: But you can look where you're going in both cases: with your head level with the horizon, and with your head level with the aircraft. I can't imagine a pilot would crane his head left or right in order to stay oriented with the horizon. The natural thing to do is have your spine straight up and down, perpendicular to your seat. (Does anybody do it another way--in a real airplane, I mean?) Blue skies! -- Dan Ford You are correct. Correcting any tendency to lean away from the turn is one of the first things any good instructor should address during the first hour of dual with any primary student. Dudley Henriques |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote:
Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight. I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping his/her head aligned with the horizon. Laugh - Andrew |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On 2007-06-21 13:01:55 -0400, Andrew Gideon said:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote: Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight. I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping his/her head aligned with the horizon. Laugh - Andrew This may be seen in the bed scene in the "Exorcist" :-) Dudley Henriques |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message news On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote: Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight. I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping his/her head aligned with the horizon. Laugh - Andrew Military style - according to an old P-51 combat WWII pilot. They were taught to pick a point on the horizon and fly around it as a training exercise. He flew me through several with virtual perfection. Say a barrel roll to the left. With speed, turn about 45 deg. to the right, pulling the nose up some 20 deg. and start the roll to the left. Rudder and stick control as required to hold the nose equidistant from the point all way around. Past vertical to knife-edge and begin right rudder for coordinated turn 45 degrees back to straight and level. The point is straight ahead. Obviously, he stared straight ahead thruout. This is approximate, because after about 100 tries I never came close to getting it right. |
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Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?
On 2007-06-21 14:30:33 -0400, "birdog" said:
"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message news On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:21:12 +0000, Bob Moore wrote: Because they are not normally operating in coordinated flight. I want to watch the in-flight video of someone doing a roll while keeping his/her head aligned with the horizon. Laugh - Andrew Military style - according to an old P-51 combat WWII pilot. They were taught to pick a point on the horizon and fly around it as a training exercise. He flew me through several with virtual perfection. Say a barrel roll to the left. With speed, turn about 45 deg. to the right, pulling the nose up some 20 deg. and start the roll to the left. Rudder and stick control as required to hold the nose equidistant from the point all way around. Past vertical to knife-edge and begin right rudder for coordinated turn 45 degrees back to straight and level. The point is straight ahead. Obviously, he stared straight ahead thruout. This is approximate, because after about 100 tries I never came close to getting it right. You can do it. The initial setup for the roll is just a bit different. You dive for airspeed and bank in an offset to the point, then you begin the roll from that offset point with the visual point for the roll kept equidistant all the way around. It's a great training exercise. Dudley Henriques |
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