Head orientation in turns--how is it taught for aviation?

There was a thread a while ago about how not only could one stay with
the force into the seat, but actually maintain 1 G straight into the
seat through a roll. If one is flying coordinated, keeping normal to
the airplane makes sense. Those how fly aerobatics have a different
set of criteria. For what it's worth, watching the in cockpit cameras
of some moderatedly skilled pilots, like the Blue Angels, shows them
"upright" with respect to the airplane except when G forces sling
their heads around, but they do fly coordinated most of the time.

But what do they know?

On Jun 10, 8:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote :

writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to perceive
as that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side.

Nope, wrong again, moron.

Bertie

On Jun 10, 5:30 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
A lot of my questions remain unanswered. Many pilots don't know as much as
they'd like to believe.

Actually, Anthony, ALL of your questions remain unanswered because you
refuse to accept the answers when given. And ALL pilots know
infinitely more about aviation than you do because they took the time
to learn how to fly in a real plane and usually have years of
experience flying. You, other the other hand, have zero/nada/no
experience and never will. This makes you nothing more than a little
boy who sucks on his thumb while flying his little toy aeroplane. All
of your silly questions about tilting your head, coordinated turns
without a rudder, proper radio work when "talking" to ATC, and on and
on, are nothing more than insignificant drivel.

Go away, little boy. Go back to your mommy and your toy aeroplane and
stop clogging up this newsgroup and wasting everyone's time.

wrote in news:1181521586.615094.119870
@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

I can just see him on his ducati trying to find control+alt+delete as
he
comes flying over the handlebars over the hood of some SUV

LOL! Been there done that!

For real? Managed to avoid it thus far. God knows how.

It's amazing how the bigger the car the more likely it is to pull right
out in front of you...

And it's always, always the same type of driver and they always look
straight at you, wait 'til they' made eye contact, then wait til you
have to brake like **** to stop and then pull out right in front of
you.. Got one very old bike with tiny brakes I never ride in towns..



Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

That there is no lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular
to the wings of the aircraft.

There is a lateral force with respect to a line perpendicular to the
horizon, however, and so if one keeps his head perpendicular to the
horizon in a turn, he will perceive the turn as a lateral movement
(which it is).

Nope, wrong as always, not that it makes any differnce to you, of
course.

you're a fjukkwit and will die a fjukkwit.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

Except it doesn't ...

Why not?


Doesn't matter, you won'ty understand it and you will never, ever, fly an
airplane.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Mxsmanic is a troll writes:

It's truely sad leeching from usenet pilots is your ONLY source
in aviation information ...

I agree.


Snort, you don't even know what keeps an airplane up, do you?



Bertie

wrote in
ps.com:

On Jun 10, 5:30 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

A lot of my questions remain unanswered. Many pilots don't know as
much as they'd like to believe.

That's because pilots here really don't know much.

I do, but I wouldn't give him the steam off my ****.

Yet you continue
to ask.

And if you can discern probable good answers from suspect answers, it
suggests you know what the answer is.

He can't though, can he?

Bertie

wrote in
ups.com:

There was a thread a while ago about how not only could one stay with
the force into the seat, but actually maintain 1 G straight into the
seat through a roll.

You can't.

If one is flying coordinated, keeping normal to
the airplane makes sense. Those how fly aerobatics have a different
set of criteria.




Nope, I fly aerobatics.

Quite well, too.

The criteria is the same, only the level of undrstanding changes.


For what it's worth, watching the in cockpit cameras
of some moderatedly skilled pilots, like the Blue Angels, shows them
"upright" with respect to the airplane except when G forces sling
their heads around, but they do fly coordinated most of the time.

But what do they know?

Exactly. But fjukkwit won't buy it..



Bertie

On Jun 10, 8:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote
:

writes:

If the turn is coordinated, there is no "sideways" force to
perceive as that is the definition of a cooridinated turn.

False. The aircraft is being accelerated to one side.

Nope, wrong again, moron.

Bertie

JB wrote in
oups.com:

On Jun 10, 5:30 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
A lot of my questions remain unanswered. Many pilots don't know as
much as they'd like to believe.

Actually, Anthony, ALL of your questions remain unanswered because you
refuse to accept the answers when given. And ALL pilots know
infinitely more about aviation than you do because they took the time
to learn how to fly in a real plane and usually have years of
experience flying. You, other the other hand, have zero/nada/no
experience and never will. This makes you nothing more than a little
boy who sucks on his thumb while flying his little toy aeroplane. All
of your silly questions about tilting your head, coordinated turns
without a rudder, proper radio work when "talking" to ATC, and on and
on, are nothing more than insignificant drivel.

Go away, little boy. Go back to your mommy and your toy aeroplane and
stop clogging up this newsgroup and wasting everyone's time.


He's not wasting my time.



Bertie

On Jun 10, 5:29 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

In the training I received, it was made very clear that your head must remain
level with the horizon. The reason? Because you'll suffer spatial
disorientation if you move your head. The same should apply in an aircraft.

Parsing these sentences, your "training" wasn't in an actual aircraft,
ever. And your "trainer" a moron.

This, incidentally, is also a good way to distinguish between a full-motion
simulator and a real aircraft.

Q.E.D. You must think we're stupid.

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