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How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?
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Mxsmanic wrote: Shirl writes: Mxsmanic wrote: What is happening to the FAA? The new Class B airspace at KPHX drives another few nails into the GA coffin. How so? It seems to be designed around the assumption that everyone has a moving-map GPS to show the boundaries of the various sectors. Anyone who doesn't have this is going to have a devil of a time figuring out whether or not he's drifting into Class B. Since GA aircraft often don't have a moving-map GPS, they are being strongly encouraged to stay away by the difficulty inherent in finding the sector boundaries using just navaids, radials, landmarks, etc. Oh, if only there were some way to present that information in a way that didn't need electronics. Perhaps some kind of large piece of paper that contained both a visual depiction of the airspace *and* landmarks on the ground. -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?
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Marty Shapiro wrote: Oh, if only there were some way to present that information in a way that didn't need electronics. Perhaps some kind of large piece of paper that contained both a visual depiction of the airspace *and* landmarks on the ground. Like a NACO VFR Terminal Area Chart? Yeah exactly. Something like that. That would be really useful. -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?
On Jan 31, 6:44*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Shirl writes: Mxsmanic wrote: What is happening to the FAA? *The new Class B airspace at KPHX drives another few nails into the GA coffin. How so? It seems to be designed around the assumption that everyone has a moving-map GPS to show the boundaries of the various sectors. *Anyone who doesn't have this is going to have a devil of a time figuring out whether or not he's drifting into Class B. *Since GA aircraft often don't have a moving-map GPS, they are being strongly encouraged to stay away by the difficulty inherent in finding the sector boundaries using just navaids, radials, landmarks, etc. I know that GA groups were strongly opposed to this new scheme, and I can see why. *The overall impression created is that Phoenix doesn't want any GA traffic. |
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How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?
On Jan 31, 6:44*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
I know that GA groups were strongly opposed to this new scheme, and I can see why. *The overall impression created is that Phoenix doesn't want any GA traffic. As always, the important thing is to plan your flight before leaving the ground. -- Gene Seibel Tales of flight - http://pad39a.com/gene/tales.html Because we fly, we envy no one. |
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How did KPHX Class B get so screwed up?
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: writes: You think aircraft are vectored through class B according to sector boundaries? I was thinking of aircraft that are trying to stay outside the Class B. Why were you thinkig of thse, fjukkwti? Bertie |
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