Do you allow landings on short fields?

John Clear wrote:

If this is the club I'm thinking of, they're also know for having
rules for just about everything.

Looks an awful lot like a club I know which operates from a
2443 x 70 ft runway :-) I am pretty sure -- but then I left quite
a while ago for saner pastures -- they have a checkout
procedure -- and currency requirements -- for the use of the
bathroom... the funny thing though is that all these rules don't
seem to do much good to their safety record, but I digress.

--Sylvain

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Sylvain wrote:

John Clear wrote:

If this is the club I'm thinking of, they're also know for having
rules for just about everything.

Looks an awful lot like a club I know which operates from a
2443 x 70 ft runway :-) I am pretty sure -- but then I left quite
a while ago for saner pastures -- they have a checkout
procedure -- and currency requirements -- for the use of the
bathroom... the funny thing though is that all these rules don't
seem to do much good to their safety record, but I digress.

--Sylvain

It also sounds like a club that had a "spot the maintenance flaws"
contest one day, several years ago. They rigged a Cessna 152 with about
20 deliberate maintenance flaws and conducted a test for their members
to spot the flaws on a preflight.

A good friend of mine, who instructed there, and had had a set of major
problems with a homebuilt he had bought, entered the contest and
proceeded to find not only all the flaws on the contest list, but
numerous "extra credit" flaws not on the list.

Needless to say, the maintenance chief received a major "wirebrushing"
as a result.

Orval Fairbairn wrote:

It also sounds like a club that had a "spot the maintenance flaws"
contest one day, several years ago. They rigged a Cessna 152 with about
20 deliberate maintenance flaws and conducted a test for their members
to spot the flaws on a preflight.

hey, that's actually a great idea, though one should be *really*
careful in making sure all the flaws introduced for the contest are
removed at the end of the day :-)

Another way to learn more about preflight check: the mechanics
who does the maintenance of our CAP aircraft gave us a walk around
of said aircraft one evening, what he looks for when he -- a
mechanics -- does a preflight, etc. that was also most educational.

Too bad that the only interaction most pilots -- I am talking renters
here, I presume that owners would be more involved -- have with the
nice folks who maintain our aircraft is via the squawk list...

--Sylvain

Sylvain,

Looks an awful lot like a club I know which operates from a
2443 x 70 ft runway :-)


Looks an awful lot like a club I tried to rent from as a walk-in. I was
lucky no one got a heart attack when I asked. They were a little too
German about this whole club thing for my taste ;-)

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

(Roy Smith) writes:

One possibility would be to outlaw landings on anything
under 2500 feet unless you've got a commercial certificate.

What happens if someone (attempts to) land on a strip shorter than 2500
and botches it? How is it different with the rule in places than the
way it is now? Will insurance go after the pilot in a different manner?

What's next? "Don't fly near thunderstorms"? At some point I think
pilots need to be trusted to do the right thing. Sure, sometimes
they'll still botch it.

--kyler

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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My club recently had an airplane damaged in an overrun on a 2200 foot
runway. This is the third such incident in the last 5 or so years
(two of which resulted in serious aircraft damage, but fortunately no
injuries). We're considering tightening up our rules about short
runways. One possibility would be to outlaw landings on anything
under 2500 feet unless you've got a commercial certificate.

One AC I know of had both a length and width restriction, 2500 X 50 minimum.
This came about after a botched landing on a 2700 X 30 paved strip.
I've always considered narrow more of a challenge than short.

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"John Kunkel" wrote:

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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My club recently had an airplane damaged in an overrun on a 2200 foot
runway. This is the third such incident in the last 5 or so years
(two of which resulted in serious aircraft damage, but fortunately no
injuries). We're considering tightening up our rules about short
runways. One possibility would be to outlaw landings on anything
under 2500 feet unless you've got a commercial certificate.

One AC I know of had both a length and width restriction, 2500 X 50 minimum.
This came about after a botched landing on a 2700 X 30 paved strip.
I've always considered narrow more of a challenge than short.

Indeed! When I based at Frazier Lake, we would close the 2500X150 grass
runway in the winter, when it was wet and take off and land on the 30'
wide paved taxiway. All was fine, if the wind was down the runway, but
it got sporting when we had a significnt crosswind (about 40% of thee
time).