wanted: hangar door tips

Mike Rapoport wrote:

Why couldn't they use salt to melt the ice?

Someone would probably shoot them. I have enough problems with corrosion on my truck
caused by salt without someone adding to the situation at the airport.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

I've seen multiple overhead doors side by side that each runs on its own set of tracks. Once all the doors are open, the
vertical track portions of the doors that get in the way of the clear opening are removed via a couple of clips. The
open doors are fully supported by the overhead tracks still in place. You then re-install the vertical tracks when ready
to close the door.

--
Dan D.



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"Jean-Paul Roy" wrote in message ...
How can you get a 40 ft garage style door to work properly. Can you imagine
one track holding each end. Wouldn't the midlle colapse when in the up
position?

J.P.
"Musky" wrote in message
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Rollers, folders.... all asking for trouble. Why not a garage-door
style door, single piece and folding upward with help from low-tech
springs? That's what we recommend for county hangars. Very low
maintenance, can be automated, and don't flop around in the wind.

My opinion only, of course.

Not these doors, which is what I have. They have the aux arms on the sides which allow them to open further with a given
opening...

http://www.hi-fold.com/



--
Dan D.



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"Craig" wrote in message om...
Ron Rosenfeld wrote in message . ..
It came with an electric bifold door.

In spite of winter ice and snow, the door has never given any trouble
whatsoever. No tracks in the ground to freeze up or buckle. The only time
I couldn't open the door was when the airport had a power failure.

I would do it again.


Biggest problem with a bifold is tail height. For my aircraft, it
makes the door framing a heck of a lot bigger than I really want. For
a tail height of 15' on one of mine, it makes the bifold opening a
minimum of 20' tall. When you couple that with a required span of 60',
it makes for a very expensive door that has to be power operated,
along with some significant structural needs. For my purposes, a
biflod would end up costing nearly as much as the rest of the hangar
itself.

Craig C.

On 16 Apr 2004 13:23:30 -0700, (Craig) wrote:

Ron Rosenfeld wrote in message . ..
It came with an electric bifold door.

In spite of winter ice and snow, the door has never given any trouble
whatsoever. No tracks in the ground to freeze up or buckle. The only time
I couldn't open the door was when the airport had a power failure.

I would do it again.


Biggest problem with a bifold is tail height. For my aircraft, it
makes the door framing a heck of a lot bigger than I really want. For
a tail height of 15' on one of mine, it makes the bifold opening a
minimum of 20' tall. When you couple that with a required span of 60',
it makes for a very expensive door that has to be power operated,
along with some significant structural needs. For my purposes, a
biflod would end up costing nearly as much as the rest of the hangar
itself.

Craig C.


I really have no idea regarding door costs. The kit with a 40x10 bifold
door was about $13K (engineered for northern climes). That was less than
half the total construction cost. I have no idea what a larger hangar
would cost.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 16:33:40 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote: (about sliding doors with track
below):

Why couldn't they use salt to melt the ice?

That ought to work, if done regularly and in advance of snowstorms.

I suspect what happened in the case mentioned was that the hangar was
left alone for a week or two. Pretty hard to melt ice from on top when
it has accumulated and there's an iron frost in the ground. (I assume
that New Jersey deep-freezes in winter. New Hampshire certain does


all the best -- Dan Ford
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 01:52:50 GMT, "Blueskies" wrote:

http://www.hi-fold.com/

Dig the photo of the hangar-house on the right, on the "Applications"
page!

all the best -- Dan Ford
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My hi-fold was $3500 for 45 wide by 12' clear opening. That is just the cost of the frame, which then has the r-board
and metal exterior attached, not to mention the installation costs (hanging it, electrical hookup, etc.) It you have no
power a roller/track door is the way to go...

--
Dan D.



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"Ron Rosenfeld" wrote in message ...
On 16 Apr 2004 13:23:30 -0700, (Craig) wrote:

Ron Rosenfeld wrote in message . ..
It came with an electric bifold door.

In spite of winter ice and snow, the door has never given any trouble
whatsoever. No tracks in the ground to freeze up or buckle. The only time
I couldn't open the door was when the airport had a power failure.

I would do it again.


Biggest problem with a bifold is tail height. For my aircraft, it
makes the door framing a heck of a lot bigger than I really want. For
a tail height of 15' on one of mine, it makes the bifold opening a
minimum of 20' tall. When you couple that with a required span of 60',
it makes for a very expensive door that has to be power operated,
along with some significant structural needs. For my purposes, a
biflod would end up costing nearly as much as the rest of the hangar
itself.

Craig C.


I really have no idea regarding door costs. The kit with a 40x10 bifold
door was about $13K (engineered for northern climes). That was less than
half the total construction cost. I have no idea what a larger hangar
would cost.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 10:42:56 GMT, "Blueskies" wrote:

My hi-fold was $3500 for 45 wide by 12' clear opening. That is just the cost of the frame, which then has the r-board
and metal exterior attached, not to mention the installation costs (hanging it, electrical hookup, etc.) It you have no
power a roller/track door is the way to go...

--
Dan D.

That is likely less than I paid for mine, but the price of my kit did not
have the door price listed separately. The kit included not only the door,
but also all of the other metal parts required to build the entire hangar.

I don't know all the names but that would include the hangar supports, door
framing, motor for the door, bolts, exterior metal sheathing.

On site we supplied some lumber which ran between the steel supports and to
which we nailed the exterior sheathing.

The rest of the erection costs had to do with labor, excavation, concrete
floor, and asphalt.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

On 16 Apr 2004 13:23:30 -0700, (Craig) wrote:

Ron Rosenfeld wrote in message . ..
It came with an electric bifold door.

In spite of winter ice and snow, the door has never given any trouble
whatsoever. No tracks in the ground to freeze up or buckle. The only time
I couldn't open the door was when the airport had a power failure.

I would do it again.


Biggest problem with a bifold is tail height. For my aircraft, it
makes the door framing a heck of a lot bigger than I really want. For
a tail height of 15' on one of mine, it makes the bifold opening a
minimum of 20' tall. When you couple that with a required span of 60',
it makes for a very expensive door that has to be power operated,
along with some significant structural needs. For my purposes, a
biflod would end up costing nearly as much as the rest of the hangar
itself.

Craig C.


I really have no idea regarding door costs. The kit with a 40x10 bifold
door was about $13K (engineered for northern climes). That was less than
half the total construction cost. I have no idea what a larger hangar
would cost.

Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

my folding doors cost me about 500 more than just building the original
wall,

anf they open in less than a minute, even with the electric power off,

13K for door, not doors ?

you guys have more money than brains !
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Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620

Thanks for the link. Very helpfull

Jean-Paul
"Blueskies" wrote in message
m...
Not these doors, which is what I have. They have the aux arms on the sides
which allow them to open further with a given
opening...

http://www.hi-fold.com/



--
Dan D.



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"Craig" wrote in message
om...
Ron Rosenfeld wrote in message
. ..
It came with an electric bifold door.

In spite of winter ice and snow, the door has never given any trouble
whatsoever. No tracks in the ground to freeze up or buckle. The only
time
I couldn't open the door was when the airport had a power failure.

I would do it again.


Biggest problem with a bifold is tail height. For my aircraft, it
makes the door framing a heck of a lot bigger than I really want. For
a tail height of 15' on one of mine, it makes the bifold opening a
minimum of 20' tall. When you couple that with a required span of 60',
it makes for a very expensive door that has to be power operated,
along with some significant structural needs. For my purposes, a
biflod would end up costing nearly as much as the rest of the hangar
itself.

Craig C.