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What's gonna happen to CAP?
Robert
It sounds to me to be a regional problem. I deliberately baited him just to see the response. He is saying nothing that we in PA do not do routinely in CAP. We all know our terrain and our pilots as you said are CFI' to ATP's in fact last year I worked with a WV pilot who was also a former Alaskan bush pilot. Maybe they are well organized and the local CAP is not, National should be aware of this and better be making corrections, but then there is a tone that would indicate there is more of a personal attitude possibly. Washington State also, well seems to me I've seen something recently about searches by CAP in WA, guess someone hasn't told them. Bottom line, As both a CAP member and a former vol. firefighter, you need all the help you can get when lives are at stake. And to put out this kind of statement makes me question, are they doing the best they can for the people they serve. In those mountains if they don't use the help maybe not. Then again if there is validity to the statements then the CAP members on here from those states mentioned better ask why and make corrections to their training we do not need this kind of sentiment. Ron Gardner PA CAP "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... On Sep 20, 5:29 pm, Newps wrote: Robert M. Gary wrote: In CAP we always have sat triangulation information before we launch. I assume that the initial report was also sat. In this context I'm not sure what you mean by a "national organization". Pilots in CAP rarely are searching more than a couple hundred miles from their home. CAP planes are located in local GA airports, we don't launch from any central location. We are locally run and organized, local being statewide. No silly rules that I've seen CAP have. The state is divided up into sectors. Each sector has a designated boss who gets the call that a plane is missing. Yes, we call these "IC"s in CAP and they coordinate the air and ground crews. He can be in the air in less than an hour. Our goal is similar, we generally try to have crews in the air w/i in hour of notication unless the information suggests a UDF (ground) crew would be more effective. Satellite info not needed/necessary before planes are flying. Sat info for us is free so we don't turn it down. It allows us to brief on the location to head towards. Once airborne our onboard equipment listens for ELTs on 3 different freq (including 406). We also have onboard VHF radios to communicate with the IC in real time. One problem I have seen with CAP pilots is they are much less experienced than the guys that do the SAR here. Maybe that is regional. Many of us are CFIs and we even have some Vietnam era FAC pilots. Many of us are also flying modern G1000 aircraft that also allow photos to be transmitted in real time to ground crews. Our guys flying SAR have multi thousands of hours flying GA airplanes all over the state and they know the terrain like the back of their hand. Our pilots are also regional. As you can imagine California has arguably the most challenging terrain in the U.S. with a combination of the Sierra's, high deserts and large bodies of water. -Robert |
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