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"Allen" wrote:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic.../countymap.htm This is why the electoral college is in place. If it were not for the electoral college the U.S. would be governed by the residents of large cities and the rural population (who tend to be more conservative) would have no say in the law-making process. Indeed, the current elector counts in U.S. presidential elections provide a bias towards the more rural, low-population states. Given the political preferences you described, the existing voting system unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on opinion) always appears to favor Republican candidates and puts an artificial drag on Democratic candidates. Greetings, Markus |
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Unless you know something most if us don't, they did not leave a
definitive reason why the electoral vote system was put in place. There are a a few reasons it could have been done. I wonder if your opinion on that would be different if the last two elections had gone the other way but with the same electoral/popular vote margin... http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic.../countymap.htm This is why the electoral college is in place. If it were not for the electoral college the U.S. would be governed by the residents of large cities and the rural population (who tend to be more conservative) would have no say in the law-making process. Allen |
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Big deal. Atleast I capitalized "President Moron". Actually, I wasn't
all that excited about Kerry. I just can't stand having an idiot in the White House. From Webster's Dictionary: Idiocy: 1 usually offensive : extreme mental retardation If this is what you really think of our president, what does that say for our country? If he's dumb, it's like a fox. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Richard Hertz" wrote: "Jay Honeck" wrote: Now that it appears that George Bush has been re-elected with a true majority of the popular vote (the first president to do so in 16 years), let me be the first to extend an olive branch to those here who may be disappointed in the results. "Appalled" would better describe it. You don't know "appalled" unless you were in NY when we voted in a carpet bagger of the worst sort to the Senate. Ya' know, if I lived in NY I bet I *would* have been appalled: Hillary gives me the creeps. -- "There ought to be limits to freedom." - George W. Bush |
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I guess one of the problems I have with him is that he obviously can't think QUICKLY. Even if you put asside the 7 minutes he sat, after the 2nd plane hit (screw the damn school kids. they'll get over it), anyone who's watched him stumble over his words, continuously, over the last 4 years (heck, he can't even read off of a damn'ed teleprompter) has to come to the conclusion that he is NOT a very quick thinker. If he was running for City Council, I'd say "no big deal", but I expect more from my President. The second thing that bothers me is that he's a religious zealot. In fact, you could almost argue that his religious convictions are as extreme as the Islamic extremists that we're fighting. --- Jay -- __!__ Jay and Teresa Masino ___(_)___ http://www2.ari.net/jmasino ! ! ! http://www.oceancityairport.com http://www.oc-adolfos.com |
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alexy wrote:
Markus Voget wrote: Indeed, the current elector counts in U.S. presidential elections provide a bias towards the more rural, low-population states. If by "current", you mean "since the founding of the United States", then I agree. If you mean to imply that it is some kind of recent phenomenon, you might want to check your facts. To my knowledge, the U.S. constitution was never changed on this point. I can even see the logic in it: If, in the legislative branch, you have proportional representation of the people in one chamber and equal representation of the states in the other chamber, why shouldn't the executive branch, in the name of balance of power, be elected in a similar way (that is, using a middle ground between the House and Senate election systems)? At the same time, political preferences in rural vs. metropolitan areas tend to be very persistent. They *could* change at any given moment, for sure, but in reality this does not happen often. At least this is the experience in my home country (Germany) but it also seems to hold true for the United States (any counter examples are welcome). My personal impression is that big cities and the countryside tend to attract different lifestyles, which tend to go hand in hand with different political affiliations. So it still seems to be the case that a Republican generally stands a better chance of becoming U.S. president than a Democrat. The obvious case in point would be the 2000 election and not so much the current one. PS: In spite of these considerations, I see no realistic chance whatsoever that the U.S. presidential election system gets changed any time soon. For better or worse... Greetings, Markus |
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Markus Voget wrote:
"Allen" wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic.../countymap.htm This is why the electoral college is in place. If it were not for the electoral college the U.S. would be governed by the residents of large cities and the rural population (who tend to be more conservative) would have no say in the law-making process. Indeed, the current elector counts in U.S. presidential elections provide a bias towards the more rural, low-population states. If by "current", you mean "since the founding of the United States", then I agree. If you mean to imply that it is some kind of recent phenomenon, you might want to check your facts. Given the political preferences you described, the existing voting system unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on opinion) always appears to favor Republican candidates and puts an artificial drag on Democratic candidates. Only if Republicans better meet the needs (or wants) of rural America, and Democrats better meet the needs (or wants) of major population centers. Either can change that "preference" at any time by their policies. -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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In article , Bob Fry wrote:
screwup, but not today. Today I ordered East and West full sectional coverage from Howie Keefe so I can start figuring out places to go and things to see. Today, I turn off the talking heads, and think and dream. I used the Howie Keefe charts on a trip from Long Island Sound to Puget sound (and back) this past summer. They're good for in-flight finger-on-the-map. They're not so good for for strategic planning. As a supplement, I had a map from (ach, ptth) Sporty's that covered the entire U.S. We knew roughly how many inches per day we could do, looked for likely places in range, and angled norther or souther depending on what the weather was doing. It really helped to have the Big Picture on one chart. Good luck. It's an incredible trip. Morris (dissatified Sporty's customer) |
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In article ,
Philip Sondericker wrote: myself actually hopeful for the future. With Republicans enjoying an unprecedented mandate, controlling the White House, having substantial majorities in both Houses of Congress, and even an advantage in Governorships and state legislatures, I'm looking forward to the following: 1. Fiscal responsibility 2. Balanced budgets 3. Smaller and less intrusive government 4. Greater personal liberties 5. A strong and all-volunteer military 6. Strong alliances and respect around the world All of the above are, of course, the bedrock philosophy of the Republican party. Or so I've been told my whole life. I can hardly wait for all of it to happen. Re-read this post 3 times, and I still, seriously, can't decide if it's really intended to be serious or sarcasm -- particular items 3 and 4 (with the Religious Right in the ascendancy). Scary either way, I guess. |
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