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On 14 May 2005 07:15:02 -0700, "Flyingmonk"
wrote: If you are charging for gas they could get very expensive very quick!! Let us know how much and I'll let you know how many! Gary OK, guys... I'm making an official announcement. "Airplanes don't kill people!, people kill people!" This statement is hereby mine and none of you better use it without my concent! LOL. Monday I'm going to the T-shirt shop and ordering me 1000 units of various sizes. Let me know if anyone wants one. I'll donate 10% of the profits to EAA's Young Eagles program, promise! I don't know how much they will cost me, but I won't mark it up much. Just to cover my time and gas money and also to cover the cost of the beer while I talk my graphics guy into designing it Pro-Bono. Let me know how many and what sizes you want. It wont cost much, promise. Flyingmonk. |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
Yes, the AOPA could learn something from the NRA. True, but I think they'd need at least four times as many members as they have now. George Patterson "Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got no clothes on - and are up to somethin'. |
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George Patterson wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Yes, the AOPA could learn something from the NRA. True, but I think they'd need at least four times as many members as they have now. That would help also, but they could be better are organizing their existing members. Might even be good for some of the freedom-minded alphabet groups to join together now and then to jointly lobby for certain legislation. Matt |
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Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs
to adopt NRA's message machine. Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective. Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps. And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her... |
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"PPT33R" wrote in message oups.com... Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs to adopt NRA's message machine. Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective. Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps. And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her... Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit more balanced. The most dangerous are gun owning pilots who are paranoid schizophrenics ;-)) |
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Chris wrote:
"PPT33R" wrote in message oups.com... Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs to adopt NRA's message machine. Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective. Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps. And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her... Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit more balanced. Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you. Matt |
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Gary,
Why do you disparage the student-pilot passenger? Because he didn't intervene earlier. Seems obvious... -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
... Gary, Why do you disparage the student-pilot passenger? Because he didn't intervene earlier. Seems obvious... What evidence is there as to what he did or didn't do? For all we know, he might simply have been taking a nap when the flight began. There'd be nothing improper about that. He was a non-pilot passenger. Or for all we know, he might have been making correct navigational suggestions that the PIC didn't heed. Or even if the passenger tried to help navigate but was just as lost as the PIC, that wouldn't necessarily speak poorly of his progress as a student pilot. Had he already been endorsed for solo cross-country flights? If not, there should be no expectation that his current training enables him to navigate reliably. --Gary |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Chris wrote: "PPT33R" wrote in message oups.com... Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs to adopt NRA's message machine. Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective. Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps. And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her... Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit more balanced. Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you. Matt Toads are better informed than he is. |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Chris wrote: "PPT33R" wrote in message oups.com... Even more important than that, the Legislative Affairs department needs to adopt NRA's message machine. Every time there is some legislation up with potential impact on their members, the NRA sends phone messages, emails, etc. Even if only a percentage of members take action, the results are quite effective. Unforatunately, I don't meet many aircraft owners and pilots with the same degree of passion about protecting their freedoms, and would be willing to make calls and send notes to their congressional reps. And AOPA does not do a very good job explaining to a Rec Pilot in Idaho why what happens in the DC ADIZ may someday effect him/her... Different psychology between owning guns that aeroplanes. Gun nuts are paranoid anyway, that why they have guns whereas pilots have to be a bit more balanced. Fortunately, most pilots are much better informed that you. Matt Huhoh. Chris has stepped on a gun nut's tail. |
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