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  #21  
Old October 3rd 08, 12:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2008-10-02 12:44:22 -0700, Dave said:

On Oct 2, 3:14*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
es330td writes:
That wreckage looks brutal. *It took me a while to figure out that
orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
a wing.


What could be the cause? *He was presumably a good pilot, and from what

I
understand the weather was clear. *And yet the news says it looks like

the
aircraft hit the mountain head on. *Mechanical failure? *Sudden incap

acitation
of the pilot? *Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
previously)? *Suicide?


Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
weekend.

Dave


As already pointed out, the plane crashed in a remote, uninhabited
wilderness. The hiker who discovered the original evidence says he was
far off any trails.

What makes you think there was a fire? The photos of the pilot
certificate and other ID show no damage from flame or smoke. The
wreckage appears corroded, but not burned.

Believe it or not, planes do not always catch fire when they crash, any
more than automobiles explode into flames when the cops shoot out the
fuel tank or the megalomaniac's giant computer causes the volcano to
erupt when it is destroyed. Those things only happen in the movies.

Personally, I am distressed by the cavalier attitude many seem to be
taking here toward Fossett's death. I miss the old guy. He had a family
that loved him and cared about him -- still do. He was also admired by
many, including myself. He generally accomplished more in a month than
most of you clowns will ever manage to do with your whole lives. The
cheap shots and petty remarks are wholly uncalled for.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

  #22  
Old October 3rd 08, 01:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2008100216532416807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2008-10-02 12:44:22 -0700, Dave said:

On Oct 2, 3:14 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
es330td writes:
That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
a wing.

What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what

I
understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like

the
aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden incap

acitation
of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
previously)? Suicide?


Another mystery is why no one witnessed the crash (and resulting
fire). Mammoth Lakes is a small city - and the
surrounding area would have had many people about on a holiday
weekend.

Dave


As already pointed out, the plane crashed in a remote, uninhabited
wilderness. The hiker who discovered the original evidence says he was far
off any trails.

What makes you think there was a fire? The photos of the pilot certificate
and other ID show no damage from flame or smoke. The wreckage appears
corroded, but not burned.

Believe it or not, planes do not always catch fire when they crash, any
more than automobiles explode into flames when the cops shoot out the fuel
tank or the megalomaniac's giant computer causes the volcano to erupt when
it is destroyed. Those things only happen in the movies.

Personally, I am distressed by the cavalier attitude many seem to be
taking here toward Fossett's death. I miss the old guy. He had a family
that loved him and cared about him -- still do. He was also admired by
many, including myself. He generally accomplished more in a month than
most of you clowns will ever manage to do with your whole lives. The cheap
shots and petty remarks are wholly uncalled for.


Well said, but what you have to understand is all of the cheap shots are
coming from John Johnson using different sock puppets. He is a bitter
malcontent ex-FAA employee and admitted drug addict. He's never been a
pilot and never will be and is a perennial loser. As such he will never
understand the accomplishments of anyone like Steve Fossett.

  #23  
Old October 3rd 08, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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On Oct 3, 12:18*pm, "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote:

Well said, but what you have to understand is all of the cheap shots are
coming from John Johnson using different sock puppets. He is a bitter
malcontent ex-FAA employee and admitted drug addict. *He's never been a
pilot and never will be and is a perennial loser. *As such he will never
understand the accomplishments of anyone like Steve Fossett.


We had Steve Fossett out here a couple of years back.
He wanted to soar in the extreme heights of the South Island wave at
Omarama but owing to unseasonable wind changes was unable to.
As far as I know his sailplane is still down there.
A good bloke
  #24  
Old October 3rd 08, 05:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Rick[_2_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
es330td writes:

That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
a wing.


What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
understand the weather was clear.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431605,00.html
"I remember the day he crashed, there were large thunderheads over the peaks
around us," Mono County Undersheriff Ralph Obenberger said, gesturing to the
mountains flanking Mammoth Lakes.

And it doesn't sound like he was all that far off the beaten path:

"Morrow told FOX News he was hiking alone with his dog near his home in
Mammoth Lakes Monday afternoon when he came across what appeared to be three
identification cards bearing Fossett's name and issued by the Federal
Aviation Administration in Illinois."

Although it may be rather morbid speculation, I can agree with the "bear
food" comment - and I have the claw marks to show for it. Ok, not on my own
epidermis, but on a bunch of stuff a bear dragged into the woods after
breaking a window and pulling the stuff out of my car about 30 miles from
Mammoth Lakes. That was about ten years ago.

- Rick


  #25  
Old October 6th 08, 07:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I'd like to buy that license for a lot of money. Most of us have
certificates. How Fossett got a license is beyone me.

Stupid ******* that posted.

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
--Aristotle


wrote in message
...
A hiker found Steve Fossett's pilot license and other items near
Mammoth Lake CA:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/...fossett_search



  #26  
Old October 6th 08, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
azure
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On Oct 6, 7:43*pm, "RST Engineering" wrote:
I'd like to buy that license for a lot of money. *Most of us have
certificates. *HowFossettgot a license is beyone me.

Stupid ******* that posted.

--
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it."
* * * * --Aristotle

wrote in message

...



A hiker found SteveFossett'spilot license and other items near
Mammoth Lake CA:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081001/...ossett_search- Hide quoted text -


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ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
which the whole story will have unfolded there.
  #27  
Old October 6th 08, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose Jimenez
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azure wrote:

ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
which the whole story will have unfolded there.


I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.
  #28  
Old October 6th 08, 09:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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José Jiménez wrote:
azure wrote:

ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
which the whole story will have unfolded there.


I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.


BEAR FOOD
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Old October 7th 08, 02:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:47:00 -0400, TheTruth
wrote:

José Jiménez wrote:
azure wrote:

ANYONE that believes that a small plane can crash and totally cremate
the body is on the wrong planet. And the ID is conveniently complete?
Nah. Fossett is alive and well, using the identity of a "missing"
person. check out geocities.com/fossettnz in the few days time by
which the whole story will have unfolded there.


I've heard he has been seen in a car together with Elvis.


BEAR FOOD

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Yep!

Big John
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Old October 7th 08, 02:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:14:12 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

es330td writes:

That wreckage looks brutal. It took me a while to figure out that
orange and white painted piece of metal was the trailing underside of
a wing.


What could be the cause? He was presumably a good pilot, and from what I
understand the weather was clear. And yet the news says it looks like the
aircraft hit the mountain head on. Mechanical failure? Sudden incapacitation
of the pilot? Bad piloting (seems unlikely, with all he had survived
previously)? Suicide?

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I lost a couple of good FACs in VN flying in mountains with a strong
wind. Neither were mountain qualified Pilots.

My WAG is that he probably bought it due to down drafts in strong wind
in mountains.

Will have to see what NTSB comes up with for final analysis.

Big John
 




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