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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 16:04:31 GMT, Jose
wrote in : I frankly don't care if they work naked. EDS and Ross Perot* would have a problem with you. :-) Of course, Mr. Honeck might not have a problem with the practices at EDS. * http://www.realchange.org/perot.htm |
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Of course, Mr. Honeck might not have a problem with the practices at
EDS. Okay, I give. What the heck is "EDS"? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like bums. I sometimes get deliveries from UPS, the drivers wear shorts in the summer. They don't look like bums to me. Why do you think they do? Have you ever seen actual bums wearing shorts? |
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message nk.net... "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like bums. I sometimes get deliveries from UPS, the drivers wear shorts in the summer. They don't look like bums to me. Why do you think they do? Have you ever seen actual bums wearing shorts? UPS has an extremely strict dress code. Wanna guess what happens to drivers that don't comply? |
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message ... UPS has an extremely strict dress code. Wanna guess what happens to drivers that don't comply? I'd expect they'd be fired. |
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I am with Jay on this one, Years ago unions were a good thing to keep
miners from getting killed in the workplace. Now the unions motive is to perpetuate their existance by working up supposable smart humans over something that should be a No brainer. If I remember right the adverage salary for a ATC worker this year was 72,500, with some raking in 171,300. For that pay they shouldn't even contest not being able to wear flip flops to work. What other profession can dress like that and earn that kind of cash, well other then Jimmy Buffet.???? Jay Honeck wrote: As of today, the FAA has imposed a dress code on their employees, requiring that they (*gasp!*) NOT where flip-flops and cut-offs to work! Amazingly, believe it or not, these employees are now actually going to be required to wear (*Oh-mi-God*) DRESS PANTS and a DRESS SHIRT to work! In the face of this terrible affront, the controller's union, NATCA, has decided to do the following, quoted from AvWeb: ************************************************** *********************************************** What's A Union To Do? While the battle inside the towers and centers may (to outsiders) have its whimsical side, the practical impact of the new regime could be significant. NATCA appears determined to fight each and every violation of the new rules cited by management. In a memo to controllers at a major center (we do know which one), union leaders are urging members to exercise their rights to the letter. "If a supervisor tries to talk with you regarding the way your are dressed, it constitutes a formal meeting," the memo reads. "Stop the conversation immediately and ask for a union representative. The same approach should be used on any other changes in your working conditions, ask for a rep immediately. The Agency has a legal obligation to comply." But the memo also says the overall battle won't be won by individual members discussing their fashion challenges. "One person alone can not change the course the agency has decided to take," the memo says. "However, collectively we can unpave their course and start a new road. I and the rest of your elected leaders will need your help now more than ever." ************************************************** *********************************************** Unbelievable! They're actually going to fight against their employer for dictating what they must wear to work... Apparently their right to look like bums in a professional setting has been violated, and the union is going on the offensive! Whenever we sit and wonder why the Bush Administration has been pushing ATC privatization so hard, all we must do is read articles like this one. Imagine -- these folks are up in arms because they have to wear a dress shirt to work! Can you imagine what must go on in those towers when a supervisor actually needs something of substance accomplished? The next time the union sends me one of their whiny spam-mails, asking for help in the fight against privatization, I'm going to send them this post. These so-called "civil servants" have done themselves (and us) a terrible disservice by choosing this ridiculous issue to fight about, and they have only increased the probability that we will see ATC privatization. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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In a previous article, " said:
over something that should be a No brainer. If I remember right the adverage salary for a ATC worker this year was 72,500, with some raking in 171,300. For that pay they shouldn't even contest not being able to wear flip flops to work. What other profession can dress like that and earn that kind of cash, well other then Jimmy Buffet.???? Computer programmers. We make that sort of money, and we sure as hell don't have a mandatory retirement at 55 or whatever it is for them. I had a job where they required a dress code. I told them that if I'm going to be on my knees crawling around a server rack or pulling cables behind dusty old computers, I'm either going to dress casually or they could pay my dry cleaning bill. They didn't relent, so I left. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer a Rolls Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon and explode once a year killing everybody inside. - Robert Cringley (InfoWorld) |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote:
I had a job where they required a dress code. I told them that if I'm going to be on my knees crawling around a server rack or pulling cables behind dusty old computers, I'm either going to dress casually or they could pay my dry cleaning bill. They didn't relent, so I left. It should be the right of an employer to enforce a dress code for employees; it is the responsibility of an employer not to be stupid or oppressive about it. This action of the FAA smacks of a power demonstration rather than a routine work rule change. Hard to see how it can help the already toxic labor-managemrnt atmosphere in ATC. -- Dan C172RG at BFM |
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message behind dusty old computers, I'm either going to dress casually or they could pay my dry cleaning bill. They didn't relent, so I left. Which is, ultimately, the way it ought to be. You vote with your feet. |
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In a previous article, "John Gaquin" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message behind dusty old computers, I'm either going to dress casually or they could pay my dry cleaning bill. They didn't relent, so I left. Which is, ultimately, the way it ought to be. You vote with your feet. Not if you've got a union to fight for you. That's what they're there for. -- Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/ I'm just waiting for the day that someone decides that "ignorant moron" is an ethnic group, and thus cannot be discriminated against. -- Christian Wagner |
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