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Old July 7th 03, 10:30 PM
Gig Giacona
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I just watched a bio on Paul Tibbets (Enola Gay Pilot) and he talked about
flying Ike to Gabraltor before the North African invasion. According to the
story Ike thought he was one of the best pilots he had ever flown with.
Tibbets said that meant more to him because Ike had private lic.


"Cub Driver" wrote in message
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Dwight Eisenhower was a pilot and flew a Rockwell Commander while he was
president. I am not sure if it was actually considered Air Force One.

This
was, of course in the 1950's


Doesn't sound right to me. It's hard to prove a negative proposition,
of course, but I see no evidence that Ike every got a pilot's license.
There are many pictures of him flying as a passenger in an L-4 in
Europe, none of him at the controls. There's no entry for "pilot" in
David Eisenhower's wartime biography. I sure would like to know more
about this!

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Old July 7th 03, 10:31 PM
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During time of declared war (this isn't, despite 'war' designations),
the Coast Guard becomes part of the DoD, specifically the US Navy,
unless this has changed since the CG moved over to the DoHS from DoT
recently...

That's what I recall, anyway. I don't have proof of this, I could be
wrong.


You're right, but we haven't been in a declared war since WWII, and the use
of "[insert military service here] One" as a call sign for Presidential
aircraft began about twelve years after the war.


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Old July 7th 03, 10:32 PM
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The Coast Guard also maintains that they were present as an armed force
in the pre-revolutionary times before the Army and the Navy.


Hmmm.... I don't see how, the USCG wasn't formed until sometime in the
1920s, I believe.

According to the USGS propaganda, they trace back to the "revenue marine" and
predates the Navy by 8 years. The "Coast Guard" name came in 1915 from the
consolidation of the Revenue Cutter Service and the Life Saving Service.


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Old July 7th 03, 10:40 PM
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It's part of the Dept. of Transportation.


The Coast Guard was moved from DOT to the Department of Homeland Security.



So it'd be called "Transport One"?


"Transport One" identified the Secretary of Transportation.


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Old July 7th 03, 10:44 PM
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Air Force one should be a microlight.
First duty of your president should be learning to fly...
betcha aviation rules and regs would make sense then :-))


The current president does know how to fly and the rules made more sense
before he entered office.


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Old July 7th 03, 11:14 PM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote ...
The Coast Guard was moved from DOT to the Department of Homeland

Security.

So, would it therefore be called "Homey One"?

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Old July 7th 03, 11:22 PM
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So, would it therefore be called "Homey One"?


Unknown. There's no example given for the USCG, I don't believe the CG has
ever flown the president, and it's unlikely they ever will.


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Old July 7th 03, 11:24 PM
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"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
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I think you owe an apology to the thousands of USCG veterans that stood in
harm's way.


What do you think I owe an apology for?



Not just in 'Nam, but all over the world since 1778, or thereabouts.


I think you're about 140 years off the mark.


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Old July 7th 03, 11:27 PM
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"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
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It was closer to 1792, when Alexander Hamilton created the Revenue Cutter
Service.


Actually, it was 1915, when the Revenue Cutter Service and the Lifesaving
Service were merged to form the Coast Guard.


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Old July 8th 03, 01:09 AM
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Casey Wilson" wrote in message
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I think you owe an apology to the thousands of USCG veterans that stood

in
harm's way.


What do you think I owe an apology for?


For your earlier insult: "But is the USCG truly a military service?"





 




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