Videos: Su-37 Superflanker vs F-22 Raptor

Videos

Su-37 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm

F-22 http://luke.megagis.lt/AirExtreme/F22/002.mpg

Commets ?

Alejandro Magno

"Alejandro Magno" wrote in message
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Videos

Su-37 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm

F-22 http://luke.megagis.lt/AirExtreme/F22/002.mpg

Commets ?

Alejandro Magno

There is no designation "Super Flanker". The SU-37 was designated FLANKER E
variant 2. This aircraft, bort 711, crashed in December 2002. The pilot
ejected successfully. Prior to the crash the 37 had been converted back to
SU-35 (FLANKER E variant 1) status.

TJ

On 3 Jan 2004 06:05:07 -0800, (Alejandro
Magno) wrote:

Videos

Su-37 http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politic...perflanker.htm

F-22 http://luke.megagis.lt/AirExtreme/F22/002.mpg

Commets ?

Alejandro Magno


http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_1.mpg

http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_2.mpg


http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/Su-30_1.avi


Comments?

Scott Ferrin wrote
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_1.mpg
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_2.mpg
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/Su-30_1.avi
Comments?

Scott

Thanks for the videos, you can find more he
http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.html

Alejandro Magno III

On 3 Jan 2004 22:39:44 -0800, (Alejandro
Magno) wrote:

Scott Ferrin wrote
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_1.mpg
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/F-22_2.mpg
http://www.xmission.com/~sferrin/Su-30_1.avi
Comments?

Scott

Thanks for the videos, you can find more he
http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.html

Alejandro Magno I

That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one. BTW is there
some reason you feel the need to dog the US rather than to try to
remain somewhat objective? I looked at your other post and it seems
like you are more interested in attempting to prove something than in
genuinely exchanging thoughts and information. If I'm wrong please
correct me.

Scott Ferrin wrote
That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one. BTW is there
some reason you feel the need to dog the US rather than to try to
remain somewhat objective? I looked at your other post and it seems
like you are more interested in attempting to prove something than in
genuinely exchanging thoughts and information. If I'm wrong please
correct me.

I hope I am not violating the policies of this group.
Sometimes I think that the USA is overrated.

Magno

On 4 Jan 2004 02:02:26 -0800, (Alejandro
Magno) wrote:

Scott Ferrin wrote
That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one. BTW is there
some reason you feel the need to dog the US rather than to try to
remain somewhat objective? I looked at your other post and it seems
like you are more interested in attempting to prove something than in
genuinely exchanging thoughts and information. If I'm wrong please
correct me.

I hope I am not violating the policies of this group.
Sometimes I think that the USA is overrated.

Magno


You're not violating any policies per say (I'm not even sure there are
any except basic courtesy) but when one rambles on about the supposed
superiority of a country, airplane, whatever with the express intent
of ****ing people off it doesn't go over real well and it's not long
before people stop taking you seriously and see you as nothing more
than an annoyance. If you think the Su-37 is superior to the F-22
then great. Tell us why and if it's just your opinion or actually
based on facts. The fact that you started off with a video of an F-22
prototype crashing while the Flanker does a couple flips suggests all
you wanted to do is slam the F-22. That being the case there are
people here that would be more than happy to slam you right back but
in the end you'll simply be ignored. If you feel like the US is
overrated then fine. You're entitled to your own opinion.

Scott Ferrin wrote in
:
On 3 Jan 2004 22:39:44 -0800,
(Alejandro Magno) wrote:

Thanks for the videos, you can find more he
http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.html

Alejandro Magno I

That video of the B-52 crashing is a pretty scarey one.

The A6 video always shocked me, but I never saw the whole
video to know the poor guy actually survived, and infact
without major injury. Thank's!

BTW, anyone know if the F16s in the lineup were hit by
the tornado in the shot there?


Regards...

"Bjørnar Bolsøy

The A6 video always shocked me, but I never saw the whole
video to know the poor guy actually survived, and infact
without major injury. Thank's!

His name was John David Bridges. He gave an interview on a programme called
Ripley's believe it or not. He revealed that he only suffered minor injuries
and named his son Blade after the incident.

TJ

Commets ?

Hardly a fair comparison ... Su product demo versus YF flight mishap.

Maneuverability is not the panacea it might appear. 180 degree heading
reversals in a phone booth certainly impress, but the aircraft is an
inviting target while performing them. It might be interesting to see a
1v1, guns only engagement between the two aircraft, but it'd be irrelevant.

Other aerodynamic factors ... speed, range, run-out capability, endurance
.... are more significant. Tactics (how you employ the aircraft) are
important. And the final argument is weapons system performance.

There are numerous examples of less-maneuverable aircraft gaining
superiority over their better turning adversaries. But I bet the Su is a
kick in the ass to fly!

R / John