Bothering a Pilot on Final

Tina wrote:
I had a totally different kind of experience at BED that is fun to
talk about. We had an ex Navy pilot -- flew F14's -- in the left seat
of the Mooney. He hand flew the ILS on a bumpy day under the hood,
needles rock solid in the middle, all the while carrying on a
conversation with us about an unrelated technical matter that would
have required a normal person's full attention.

He was probably the best pilot, in terms of airplane handling ability,
I had even witnessed. He did confess the low stall speeds in the
Mooney took some getting used to.

Other than very fit, handsome, funny, skilled and smart he was just
like most other pilots I knew.

I wonder what it would take to distract him on final: Incoming?

Bingo, I have a friend who is a former U-2 pilot and he flew some
manuvers made the instruments look broken (never bounced the needles)
while talking to someone in the back seat (turned around).

Wow,

Margy

On May 31, 10:01 pm, Margy Natalie wrote:
Tina wrote:
I had a totally different kind of experience at BED that is fun to
talk about. We had an ex Navy pilot -- flew F14's -- in the left seat
of the Mooney. He hand flew the ILS on a bumpy day under the hood,
needles rock solid in the middle, all the while carrying on a
conversation with us about an unrelated technical matter that would
have required a normal person's full attention.

He was probably the best pilot, in terms of airplane handling ability,
I had even witnessed. He did confess the low stall speeds in the
Mooney took some getting used to.

Other than very fit, handsome, funny, skilled and smart he was just
like most other pilots I knew.

I wonder what it would take to distract him on final: Incoming?

Bingo, I have a friend who is a former U-2 pilot and he flew some
manuvers made the instruments look broken (never bounced the needles)
while talking to someone in the back seat (turned around).

Wow,

Margy

I guess that's part of the right stuff they talk about. Tha amazing
thing is how much time the top tier of pilots seem to have. I like the
broken instrument comment. Why have needles if you're not going to
make them move a little bit?

Margy Natalie wrote in news:4841fb1c$0$24999
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Tina wrote:
I had a totally different kind of experience at BED that is fun to
talk about. We had an ex Navy pilot -- flew F14's -- in the left seat
of the Mooney. He hand flew the ILS on a bumpy day under the hood,
needles rock solid in the middle, all the while carrying on a
conversation with us about an unrelated technical matter that would
have required a normal person's full attention.

He was probably the best pilot, in terms of airplane handling
ability,
I had even witnessed. He did confess the low stall speeds in the
Mooney took some getting used to.

Other than very fit, handsome, funny, skilled and smart he was just
like most other pilots I knew.

I wonder what it would take to distract him on final: Incoming?

Bingo, I have a friend who is a former U-2 pilot and he flew some
manuvers made the instruments look broken (never bounced the needles)
while talking to someone in the back seat (turned around).


It's just a matter of experience. If you do it so much that it's second
nature, it frees up a lot of capacity. Having said that, the autopilot
does so much of it nowadays....



Bertie

On May 31, 10:45 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote in news:4841fb1c$0$24999
:





Tina wrote:
I had a totally different kind of experience at BED that is fun to
talk about. We had an ex Navy pilot -- flew F14's -- in the left seat
of the Mooney. He hand flew the ILS on a bumpy day under the hood,
needles rock solid in the middle, all the while carrying on a
conversation with us about an unrelated technical matter that would
have required a normal person's full attention.

He was probably the best pilot, in terms of airplane handling
ability,
I had even witnessed. He did confess the low stall speeds in the
Mooney took some getting used to.

Other than very fit, handsome, funny, skilled and smart he was just
like most other pilots I knew.

I wonder what it would take to distract him on final: Incoming?

Bingo, I have a friend who is a former U-2 pilot and he flew some
manuvers made the instruments look broken (never bounced the needles)
while talking to someone in the back seat (turned around).

It's just a matter of experience. If you do it so much that it's second
nature, it frees up a lot of capacity. Having said that, the autopilot
does so much of it nowadays....

Bertie



I can't fully agree, Bertie. Some people just repeat the same hour of
experience a hundred or a thousand times. Some gifted ones -- Hoover
comes to mind, as does the man I mentioned, or the one Margy did --
are just superior. It takes much less training and practice for them
to get 3 or 4 standard deviations away from the rest of us in a given
field. I can probably beat most athletes who are not golfers for the
first couple of rounds, but that would not be the way to bet at the
50th round.

For that matter, I can assure you on a level field I would not compete
well professionally with some of the post docs I'm training. It's nice
to be queen!

On May 31, 6:13 pm, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
On Fri, 30 May 2008 18:27:54 GMT, "Steve Foley"

wrote:
Spencer uses 123.0. Tanner-Hiller is the only airport within 25 miles of
Spencer that uses 123.0, but they have very little traffic.

I was just past Plum Island (123.0) and heading south. At 2500 feet I
can hear four states (though to be sure, the radius doesn't have to be
very large to allow that: New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont,
Massachusetts).



My question is: Can a plane transmitting from twenty five miles away
interfere with local communications?

Oh, I think so. I often key to transmit and send out this awful
squeal, which I assume means someone else (who I can't hear with the
rubber ducky antenna) is transmitting at the same time.

(I don't think you can hear me, though! I have tried it, inbound to
Hampton, at 10 miles, 5 miles, 2 miles ... it's not until I'm almost
overhead that I can raise George.)

Blue skies! -- Dan Ford

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While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.

On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:31:14 -0500, Viperdoc wrote:

You are correct in just one message, which is why I didn't pursue any other
action. It was and still is a bit creepy. If you think this is normal and
not a little over the top, so be it.

Heck, how do we know? Post the email.

Heck, how do we know? Post the email.


Nah, it's just not worth it. Guys like him are just a bunch of know-it-all
blowhards that have to have the last word in every conversation. If he does
it again it may be a different story.

Just got back from flying to a great breakfast, and then took my son up in
the Extra- what a great flying day. After a day like today, it kind of puts
things in perspective: guys like him are just little mental speedbumps.

I'm also getting ready for a big vacation trip to France next weekend-
perhaps I should look up Anthony when I get there- where's Rue de General in
Paris?

I wonder if he actually looks like my mental picture, or worse?

On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.


I've heard those airports over Provincetown, MA!

I can also hear Montgomery, NY over Chester, CT.

Tina wrote in news:46ee5bc6-d0b2-4563-a1c4-
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On May 31, 10:45 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Margy Natalie wrote in news:4841fb1c$0$24999
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Tina wrote:
I had a totally different kind of experience at BED that is fun to
talk about. We had an ex Navy pilot -- flew F14's -- in the left
seat
of the Mooney. He hand flew the ILS on a bumpy day under the hood,
needles rock solid in the middle, all the while carrying on a
conversation with us about an unrelated technical matter that
would
have required a normal person's full attention.

He was probably the best pilot, in terms of airplane handling
ability,
I had even witnessed. He did confess the low stall speeds in the
Mooney took some getting used to.

Other than very fit, handsome, funny, skilled and smart he was
just
like most other pilots I knew.

I wonder what it would take to distract him on final: Incoming?

Bingo, I have a friend who is a former U-2 pilot and he flew some
manuvers made the instruments look broken (never bounced the
needles)
while talking to someone in the back seat (turned around).

It's just a matter of experience. If you do it so much that it's
second
nature, it frees up a lot of capacity. Having said that, the
autopilot
does so much of it nowadays....

Bertie



I can't fully agree, Bertie. Some people just repeat the same hour of
experience a hundred or a thousand times. Some gifted ones -- Hoover
comes to mind, as does the man I mentioned, or the one Margy did --
are just superior. It takes much less training and practice for them
to get 3 or 4 standard deviations away from the rest of us in a given
field. I can probably beat most athletes who are not golfers for the
first couple of rounds, but that would not be the way to bet at the
50th round.


OK, that's true enough, but I wouldn't attribute it to training or even
the speed of learning so much. More to an insatiable curiosity...

For that matter, I can assure you on a level field I would not compete
well professionally with some of the post docs I'm training. It's nice
to be queen!

He he.

Bertie

B A R R Y wrote in
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 08:44:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


While flying over southern Long Island (HWV) at pattern altitude, it
is common to hear communications from Sky Acres NY and Lincoln Park NJ
(both 60-70 nm away), as well as from a few other airports, on the
122.8 CTAF. Some signals are strong; others are not.


I've heard those airports over Provincetown, MA!

I can also hear Montgomery, NY over Chester, CT.


In soe conditions you'll be able to hear furhter than that! I've heard
VHF transmissions well over 1,000 miles away even at low levels.

Bertie