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The Most Exploited Generation
The Most Exploited Generation
Posted by Chris Dominguez The way the mandarins of Warfare State never tire of their odes to World War II, you'd almost think they were sorry it ever ended. Their love of the "Good War" makes perfect sense, though; the period of the war was a Statist's dream come true: all able-bodied men reduced to chattel slaves of the government, and everyone else subject to its regulation over practically all aspects of life. This helps explain the creation of the myth of the "Greatest Generation." I say "myth" not to diminish my grandparents or their contemporaries, but only as a way of explaining how those not of that generation (George W. Bush, Stephen Ambrose, Tom Brokaw, Steven Spielberg, etc.) have used this flattery either in the service of their own gain or as a way of shaming the rest of us into taking up our own mantle of "sacrifice" in service to the Almighty State. What will the Warmongers do when the last of those WWII vets have passed away in another election cycle or two? Evoke the glories of Korea, Vietnam, or the Persian Gulf? The State has been living off the capital of D-Day for far too long; not much more blood can be squeezed from that rock. Notwithstanding the Statist hope of a generations-spanning Holy Crusade for Democracy, America will not and cannot keep that party going. The keg is already running dry. In 15 years WWII will be to anyone under 45 like WWI or the War of 1812--just something that happened in 11th-grade history class. |
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You know nothing of pride or respect for your Country. Move in with the
Bedouins who have no country. John Galt wrote: The Most Exploited Generation Posted by Chris Dominguez The way the mandarins of Warfare State never tire of their odes to World War II, you'd almost think they were sorry it ever ended. Their love of the "Good War" makes perfect sense, though; the period of the war was a Statist's dream come true: all able-bodied men reduced to chattel slaves of the government, and everyone else subject to its regulation over practically all aspects of life. This helps explain the creation of the myth of the "Greatest Generation." I say "myth" not to diminish my grandparents or their contemporaries, but only as a way of explaining how those not of that generation (George W. Bush, Stephen Ambrose, Tom Brokaw, Steven Spielberg, etc.) have used this flattery either in the service of their own gain or as a way of shaming the rest of us into taking up our own mantle of "sacrifice" in service to the Almighty State. What will the Warmongers do when the last of those WWII vets have passed away in another election cycle or two? Evoke the glories of Korea, Vietnam, or the Persian Gulf? The State has been living off the capital of D-Day for far too long; not much more blood can be squeezed from that rock. Notwithstanding the Statist hope of a generations-spanning Holy Crusade for Democracy, America will not and cannot keep that party going. The keg is already running dry. In 15 years WWII will be to anyone under 45 like WWI or the War of 1812--just something that happened in 11th-grade history class. |
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You show such a compelling grasp of the obvious!
WDA end "John Galt" wrote in message om... The Most Exploited Generation Posted by Chris Dominguez The way the mandarins of Warfare State never tire of their odes to World War II, you'd almost think they were sorry it ever ended. Their love of the "Good War" makes perfect sense, though; the period of the war was a Statist's dream come true: all able-bodied men reduced to chattel slaves of the government, and everyone else subject to its regulation over practically all aspects of life. This helps explain the creation of the myth of the "Greatest Generation." I say "myth" not to diminish my grandparents or their contemporaries, but only as a way of explaining how those not of that generation (George W. Bush, Stephen Ambrose, Tom Brokaw, Steven Spielberg, etc.) have used this flattery either in the service of their own gain or as a way of shaming the rest of us into taking up our own mantle of "sacrifice" in service to the Almighty State. What will the Warmongers do when the last of those WWII vets have passed away in another election cycle or two? Evoke the glories of Korea, Vietnam, or the Persian Gulf? The State has been living off the capital of D-Day for far too long; not much more blood can be squeezed from that rock. Notwithstanding the Statist hope of a generations-spanning Holy Crusade for Democracy, America will not and cannot keep that party going. The keg is already running dry. In 15 years WWII will be to anyone under 45 like WWI or the War of 1812--just something that happened in 11th-grade history class. |
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Its one way of dealing with Vietnam and like wars that did not go well,
atleast in the public mind.. Not that there was not oddities and corruptions cause of WW2. Much of the crisises of the world today can be directly related to thigns we did not do during and after WW2. Like where did the Atlantic Charter go after FDR died? Well, instead of helping give former imperial/colonial possessions their freedom, we allowed the empires to keep them and abuse them as before. Vietnam as being one. Mike Alaska John Galt wrote: The Most Exploited Generation Posted by Chris Dominguez The way the mandarins of Warfare State never tire of their odes to World War II, you'd almost think they were sorry it ever ended. Their love of the "Good War" makes perfect sense, though; the period of the war was a Statist's dream come true: all able-bodied men reduced to chattel slaves of the government, and everyone else subject to its regulation over practically all aspects of life. This helps explain the creation of the myth of the "Greatest Generation." I say "myth" not to diminish my grandparents or their contemporaries, but only as a way of explaining how those not of that generation (George W. Bush, Stephen Ambrose, Tom Brokaw, Steven Spielberg, etc.) have used this flattery either in the service of their own gain or as a way of shaming the rest of us into taking up our own mantle of "sacrifice" in service to the Almighty State. What will the Warmongers do when the last of those WWII vets have passed away in another election cycle or two? Evoke the glories of Korea, Vietnam, or the Persian Gulf? The State has been living off the capital of D-Day for far too long; not much more blood can be squeezed from that rock. Notwithstanding the Statist hope of a generations-spanning Holy Crusade for Democracy, America will not and cannot keep that party going. The keg is already running dry. In 15 years WWII will be to anyone under 45 like WWI or the War of 1812--just something that happened in 11th-grade history class. |
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Abrigon Gusiq wrote:
Its one way of dealing with Vietnam and like wars that did not go well, atleast in the public mind.. Not that there was not oddities and corruptions cause of WW2. Much of the crisises of the world today can be directly related to thigns we did not do during and after WW2. Like where did the Atlantic Charter go after FDR died? Well, instead of helping give former imperial/colonial possessions their freedom, we allowed the empires to keep them and abuse them as before. Vietnam as being one. Hoh Chi Minh actually asked us for help with France before turning towards Moscow. I wonder how history would have played out if we had honored their request. Notice how most of the US troubles start with F and with rance? |
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Abrigon Gusiq wrote:
Its one way of dealing with Vietnam and like wars that did not go well, atleast in the public mind.. Not that there was not oddities and corruptions cause of WW2. Much of the crisises of the world today can be directly related to thigns we did not do during and after WW2. Like where did the Atlantic Charter go after FDR died? Well, instead of helping give former imperial/colonial possessions their freedom, we allowed the empires to keep them and abuse them as before. Vietnam as being one. "sanjian" wrote in message news:igXvc.1129$5B2.79@lakeread04... Hoh Chi Minh actually asked us for help with France before turning towards Moscow. Well, many countries asked toward Moscow AFTER they asked Washington D.C. and was turned down. This is actually is quite acceptable, one is allowed to not give help and let things work it for itself. It's one's right on whether or not one should give help. Forcing them, inflicting violence on them, giving lecture to them, boycotting the, and so on so that they will help isn't acceptable. It should be noted that interfering with one's country own affair on the other hand, isn't acceptable. I wonder how history would have played out if we had honored their request. The term 'we' implied as if the citizens of the U.S.A. has the same will as the government of the U.S.A. It's not in the will of the citizens of the U.S.A.'s to go into a war, let alone 'liberating' other people countries and fighting other people's wars. As for on how history will turn out of the request is accepted. Well... It's not like that the U.S.A. government can accept the request even if they wanted to, since in the end, the U.S.A. governmet too like any other official government is only a tool, but not a tool of its citizens. |
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"EAC" wrote in message
m... Abrigon Gusiq wrote: Its one way of dealing with Vietnam and like wars that did not go well, atleast in the public mind.. Not that there was not oddities and corruptions cause of WW2. Much of the crisises of the world today can be directly related to thigns we did not do during and after WW2. Like where did the Atlantic Charter go after FDR died? Well, instead of helping give former imperial/colonial possessions their freedom, we allowed the empires to keep them and abuse them as before. Vietnam as being one. "sanjian" wrote in message news:igXvc.1129$5B2.79@lakeread04... Hoh Chi Minh actually asked us for help with France before turning towards Moscow. Well, many countries asked toward Moscow AFTER they asked Washington D.C. and was turned down. North Vietnam was the main example there, but North Korea and Eastern Europe went that way because the Soviets occupied them and set up their gov'ts. (With a notable exception being Yugoslavia, where Tito ran things in an uneasy "brotherhood" with Russia.) Cuba was also interesting, with Fidel pulling a bait and switch. Of course, the place is a mess now. Of course, on the motivations and reasoning for WW2, this doesn't wash. Anyone can nitpick the outcome, but a lot of Europe, especially in the west, turned out OK. Taiwan and South Korea became prosperous, free nations. WW2 was fought because the Nazis, Italian Fascists and Japanese were bombing, killing, and invading people. The US got in after the Japanese bombed the US, and early in the war the German U-Boats went nuts of the US East Coast with Operation Drumbeat. There was just cause, if ever there was. This is actually is quite acceptable, one is allowed to not give help and let things work it for itself. It's one's right on whether or not one should give help. Forcing them, inflicting violence on them, giving lecture to them, boycotting the, and so on so that they will help isn't acceptable. You need to extend your outrage to what the Communist nations in the post-WW2 world, and the Axis ones of WW2, were doing to people. The Russians killed millions of their own people, plus Ukranians, Poles, Estonians, Hungarians, etc. etc. The Chinese Communists murdered at least hundreds of thousands of their own countrymen. During WW2, the Japanese were going nuts killing people in China, they maimed and tortured civilians and enemy POWs alike in the Phillipines. US citizens, mind you. Plus Singapore, Wake Island, etc. The Germans murdered millions. The Italians gassed Ethiopians and cooperated with the Nazis in their war effort, until they were invaded and the Italians themselves rose up and threw out Mussolini's minions - prompting Hitler to order Italy occupied and attacked by the German forces. The Japanese also, as was said, bombed the US and invaded her territory in the Phillipines, Guam, Wake Island, and the Aleutian Islands. The German U-Boats sank plenty of civilian US merchant ships off the US coast early in 1942. It should be noted that interfering with one's country own affair on the other hand, isn't acceptable. Well, I do wish you would have been around to politely explain that to Hitler and Tojo, sir. I also think your telling Stalin not to starve the Ukranians, take over the Baltic States, screw over Poland, divide the Koreans against each other, help prompt a proxy war in Korea, and telling Mao not to invade Tibet, fight artillery duels with Taiwan and kill a lot of his own people would have been nice too. The US wasn't dealing with a bunch of civilized people here. I wonder how history would have played out if we had honored their request. The term 'we' implied as if the citizens of the U.S.A. has the same will as the government of the U.S.A. It's not in the will of the citizens of the U.S.A.'s to go into a war, let alone 'liberating' other people countries and fighting other people's wars. It saves the expense of having to fight on our own ground to liberate ourselves if we deal with it before it comes to that. Do you think the people in US Territory in Hawaii, the Phillipines, Wake and Guam felt safe when the planes started coming over and the bombs started falling? Do you think the people on the East Coast felt safe and unthreatened looking out in 1942 at the night horizon, lit up by burning, torpedoed ships? I can tell you my English teacher in grade school was a kid then, and she sure remembered being horrified by it, and seeing the oil and tar washing up, with all the debris afterwards. Do you believe the US forces and Western Eurpoeans in Europe felt safe seeing how the Russians established their grip in Eastern Europe before, during, and after WW2? Do you think Taiwanese feel nice and safe when the Chinese fire "practice" missiles near their island? Do you believe Americans felt really safe when they saw planes hijacked and rammed into buildings a couple years ago? For one who professes to have such knowledge, you seem to have forgotten much in the way of history. As for on how history will turn out of the request is accepted. Well... It's not like that the U.S.A. government can accept the request even if they wanted to, since in the end, the U.S.A. governmet too like any other official government is only a tool, but not a tool of its citizens. Yet, before, you said the opposite. |
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That's funny. I don't feel exploited. I didn't fight in WW II for monuments or
parades. Pity the poor ******* who has to fight in a war he didn't belive in. Yes, it's probably more clear to say the politicians are using the memory of WWII and its vets to exploit the rest of us. But D-Day was unneeded. The US should have let the National Socialists and the Communist Socialists fight each other to the death....then no Cold War and looming bankruptcy of the US. Taxation is theft. All politicians are crooks. |
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In article , John Galt
writes That's funny. I don't feel exploited. I didn't fight in WW II for monuments or parades. Pity the poor ******* who has to fight in a war he didn't belive in. Yes, it's probably more clear to say the politicians are using the memory of WWII and its vets to exploit the rest of us. But D-Day was unneeded. The US should have let the National Socialists and the Communist Socialists fight each other to the death....then no Cold War and looming bankruptcy of the US. Ignoring the millions of oppressed Poles, Czechs, Austrians, Norwegians, Danes, Dutch, Belgians, Luxembourgeois, Greeks and French, etc. who were neither Fascist nor Communist, merely conquered? Nice one. Taxation is theft. All politicians are crooks. At least you got one thing right. -- Peter Ying tong iddle-i po! |
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