Whats it take to get a ride on a jump seat

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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Maxwell wrote:
The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of the
O2 mask in an emergency.

?

I see lots of airline pilots with thick mustaches.

As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about.

It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally tolerated
and some even allow beards under certain criteria.

Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when I
could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in
coach.

"terry" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 3:35 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:
t carrier.

If you really have the itch, go buy one of those World Air Routes in
cockpit
videos. Aside from the [minimal] physical sensations, the experience is
identical and in many ways better since they explain the flight and
aircraft
systems in many of the videos.

you wouldnt be related to Msxmanic by any chance?

Nope, Marco is a particpant in this group from way back.

What he says sounds about right. Unless you know someone in a non US
airline, chances of a jump seat ride are slim to none. If that is not you
then perhaps a video ride is the best you will do. And since the physical
sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly more exciting than
sitting in a recliner in your living room, that description sounds about
right too.

Don't be too quick to judge everyone on MX's standards. His simming is not
the problem. He is, in every other way.
--
Jim in NC

On Dec 2, 5:16*pm, Tman wrote:
Of a commercial airline flight. *Is it just out of the question?

That said, I'm not a beautiful lady, so I don't have that going for me.
I imagine that no degree of schmoozing and trying can get me into a jump
* seat, unless I happen to know one of the crew. *Anyone disagree?
T

The only way to ride the jumpseat for quite some time (Pre 9-11 even)
is to be a Flight crewmember with an airline that participates in a
program were your employment can be verified. If your airline does not
participate you can still request a ride but it wont be in the
jumpseat. You would ride in the back space permiting. I took my father
in the jumpseat on one of the last 135 legs that my airline flew
before having to comply with 121 along with all the other commuters
and that was about 12 years ago , so it has been this way for a long
time. The employment verification thing came about after 9/11.
Pretty much the big difference is that things are alot quieter ,
faster TO and landing speeds and a really good autopilot/autothrottle
(G).
Frank

"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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| Maxwell wrote:
| The no facial hair requirement was specified to assure proper fit of
the O2
| mask in an emergency.
|
| ?
|
| I see lots of airline pilots with thick mustaches.

Hard to say, probably depends on the airline and coverage of the mustache.
If it didn't interfere with the O2 masks, like many beards, probably not a
factor.

"Mike" nospam @ aol.com wrote in message
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| As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about.
|
| It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally
tolerated
| and some even allow beards under certain criteria.
|
| Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when I
| could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in
| coach.
|

Well by all means little Mikey Mouth, what airlines allow beards that
interrupt the seal of an O2 mask.

Mike wrote:


It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally
tolerated and some even allow beards under certain criteria.

By the airlines maybe, but I imagine not tolerated too well by the cabin
crew.
(Chafing issues on the "lay"over).
T

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"terry" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 3:35 am, "Marco Leon" wrote:

And since the physical sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly
more exciting than sitting in a recliner in your living room, that
description sounds about right too.


That is always my hope!

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:18:43 GMT, Mike wrote:

Riding

TRYING TO ISOLATE MY RESPONSE TO soc.subculture.online.kooks ddn't work
Mikey

SHUT THE **** UP ASSHOLE
--
Bear Bottoms
Private Attorney General

"Morgans" wrote in message
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Nope, Marco is a particpant in this group from way back.

What he says sounds about right. Unless you know someone in a non US
airline, chances of a jump seat ride are slim to none. If that is not you
then perhaps a video ride is the best you will do. And since the physical
sensations on a commercial flight are only slightly more exciting than
sitting in a recliner in your living room, that description sounds about
right too.

Don't be too quick to judge everyone on MX's standards. His simming is
not the problem. He is, in every other way.
--
Jim in NC

Thanks for the backup Jim. No, MX I'm not although I've sparred with him a
few times until I became enlightened.

Part of the reason I was able to get the jump seats back then was becasue I
was a pilot. I had some good conversations about aircraft systems with a few
in the cockpit crew because of that fact.

The videos are quite close to being there. For pilots--especially instrument
rated ones active in the system--there's even a thing or two to learn about
the different airlines' IFR procedures and what you might be able to
incorporate in your own process.To me, those procedures are the main reason
why their accident record is so good.

Marco

"Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
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"Mike" nospam @ aol.com wrote in message
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| As usual, Maxie doesn't know what he's squawking about.
|
| It depends on the airline in question, but mustaches are generally
tolerated
| and some even allow beards under certain criteria.
|
| Riding in the jump seat is highly overrated. Even back in the day when
I
| could ride jumpseat, I preferred to ride in the back, even if it was in
| coach.
|

Well by all means little Mikey Mouth, what airlines allow beards that
interrupt the seal of an O2 mask.

None, but that wasn't what I claimed, Okie.

How about you name one single airline that DOESN'T allow mustaches, as you
claimed?

Have you ever worn an aviation O2 mask?

Obviously not.

I don't know of any major domestic airlines that allow them, although that
doesn't mean they don't. Mostly it's just a few regionals and foreign
carriers. The point is it's up to the airline in question.

Here's one that does allow them, but there are several more.

http://www.arcticcircleair.com/Jumpseating.htm