If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
PUMA IFV... Best in the World... No Surprise
|
#3
|
|||
|
|||
"B2431" wrote in message ... From: (robert arndt) Date: 6/17/2004 9:32 AM Central Daylight Time Message-id: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl...de/english/ind ex.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKMW,%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG Bradley is a P.O.S. by comparison. Rob It is "under development" according to your cite. Are you so blinded by anti U.S. sentiment that you don't understand what this means? I will simplify it for you: underdevelopment means it is not fielded, has not seen combat, still doesn't have all the bugs worked out and can't be compared to a system that already exists. Dan, come now...you know all of that is well beyond Arndt's comprehension level. The poor guy is in denial regarding the fact that the Germans themselves are slashing their own armored forces, and actually thinks they are actively pursuing a new generation MBT. He is apparently allergic to facts/reality, as we have repeatedly seen each and every time he starts doing his Doctor Strangelove impersonation in regards to the superiority of all things German, as especially Nazi, developed--and even those that were not developed, like his flying saucers... Brooks Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
On 17 Jun 2004 18:37:26 GMT, "ian maclure" wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:32:56 -0700, robert arndt wrote: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl...UTF-8%26sa%3DG Bradley is a P.O.S. by comparison. Apples and Oranges. Bradley is 1970's technology. Puma is ermm, under development according to the site cited. And-uh it may never be deployed. So, I'll put together a team with oh say a battalion's worth of Bradley scouts, you do the same with Pumas and we'll do the High Noon thing. Air deliver to some remote site using oh say C130 aircraft. Oh wait, you can't... IBM _________________________________________________ ______________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source i remember when people critized the bradely cause it had Tow missles on it, people said why dose a IFV need Tows, etc. But as soon as the first Gulf War was over, everybody wanted to put ATG missles on their own IFV. People somehow forgot that the role of the IFV was to support the troops, not just operate as a Taxi. Those Tows sure came in handy when going up against Bunkers and machine gun nests. just my $.02 Speaking of European projects, how is the A4000 transport that was supposed to enter service by now comeing along???? |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
In message , Lyle
writes i remember when people critized the bradely cause it had Tow missles on it, people said why dose a IFV need Tows, etc. But as soon as the first Gulf War was over, everybody wanted to put ATG missles on their own IFV. Well, we didn't... People somehow forgot that the role of the IFV was to support the troops, not just operate as a Taxi. IFVs are there to get troops to the objective. Not to be bulky tank destroyers. BMPs haven't stopped Western forces, antitank missiles or not. (Now, what *would* be very effective IMO would be replacing TOW on the Bradleys with Javelin - fire-and-forget makes ATGM on an IFV much more dangerous) Those Tows sure came in handy when going up against Bunkers and machine gun nests. Isn't that what the M242 is for? Speaking of European projects, how is the A4000 transport that was supposed to enter service by now comeing along???? On the same sort of schedule as the F-22. It'll arrive when it arrives and it'll either meet its specification or it won't. -- He thinks too much: such men are dangerous. Julius Caesar I:2 Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
"ian maclure" wrote in message news On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 07:32:56 -0700, robert arndt wrote: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl...UTF-8%26sa%3DG Bradley is a P.O.S. by comparison. Apples and Oranges. Bradley is 1970's technology. Puma is ermm, under development according to the site cited. And-uh it may never be deployed. So, I'll put together a team with oh say a battalion's worth of Bradley scouts, you do the same with Pumas and we'll do the High Noon thing. Air deliver to some remote site using oh say C130 aircraft. Oh wait, you can't... Better make that C-17's (won't make a difference, really, since your point would still be valid), 'cause IIRC the Bradley is not deployable by C-130--the Stryker is (marginally). Brooks IBM __________________________________________________ __________________________ ___ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
From: Alan Minyard
Date: 6/22/2004 1:02 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: On 17 Jun 2004 07:32:56 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl....de/english/in dex.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKMW,%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG Bradley is a P.O.S. by comparison. Rob Nazi jerk Al Minyard Al, please note the only cite teuton gives is the manufacturers brochure. Should we ask if he has any independant cite from any recognized testing agency? Would he be able to come up with any from a site other than his usual UFO sources? The world wants to know. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
(B2431) wrote: From: Alan Minyard Date: 6/22/2004 1:02 PM Central Daylight Time Message-id: On 17 Jun 2004 07:32:56 -0700, (robert arndt) wrote: http://216.239.37.104/translate_c?hl....de/english/in dex.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKMW,%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DG Bradley is a P.O.S. by comparison. Rob Nazi jerk Al Minyard Al, please note the only cite teuton gives is the manufacturers brochure. Should we ask if he has any independant cite from any recognized testing agency? Would he be able to come up with any from a site other than his usual UFO sources? The world wants to know. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Not to mention that none of the vehicles he seems to promote have any sort of combat record (if German) or have a pretty sorry one (if Soviet)-we all know the shortcomings of Soviet armor-but he doesn't seem to notice. And when's the last time a German-made tank or APC went into combat in a real war situation? (Peacekeeping doesn't count) Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:17:23 GMT, "Matt Wiser"
wrote: Not to mention that none of the vehicles he seems to promote have any sort of combat record (if German) or have a pretty sorry one (if Soviet)-we all know the shortcomings of Soviet armor-but he doesn't seem to notice. And when's the last time a German-made tank or APC went into combat in a real war situation? (Peacekeeping doesn't count) 2002. Fox NBC vehcles are use by both the US and British armies, and both deployed them in Op IF. Peter Kemp |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Cops Of The World - PHIL OCHS | torresD | Military Aviation | 1 | May 2nd 04 03:15 AM |
~ GEORGE BUSH SET WORLD BACK 10 YEARS SAYS BLAIR AIDE ~ | Matt Wiser | Military Aviation | 0 | April 15th 04 03:01 PM |
World War II Flying 'Ace' Salutes Racial Progress, By Gerry J. Gilmore | Otis Willie | Military Aviation | 2 | February 22nd 04 03:33 AM |
Two Years of War | Stop Spam! | Military Aviation | 3 | October 9th 03 11:05 AM |
U.S. is losing the sympathy of the world | John Mullen | Military Aviation | 149 | September 22nd 03 03:42 PM |